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The Jessica Lynch Rescue Mindfuck

by effenheimer at 03:55 PM on November 08, 2003

Just when I was all prepared to hate Jessica Lynch, American hero, I heard some interesting comments about her rescue ... from her ... that changed my mind.
"There was no reason to film my rescue or to rescue me in such a dramatic fashion except to try and boost support for the war back home."

Apparently, Ms. Lynch doesn't even by the government's line of shit on her rescue. She doesn't claim to have been raped either. Meanwhile, this jerk-off movie about her heroic rescue is coming out this weekend and we are all supposed to sit around the god damn TV and weep about how fucking awesome she was to get captured and rescued when the Iraqi CIVILIANS who took care of her apparently did a hell of good job, treated her great and told us to come and get her.

It is against the law to use propaganda against the American public but apparently no one told ABC or the Bush administration. I resent it. Jessica Lynch resents it. The Iraqis who helped her, oh yeah, they resent it. It's sickening. It's obvious. And yet it seems that because it is so obvious – man it's the fucking elephant in the room – it's almost like magic that no one can notice it.

It's like this woman I knew who walked in on her husband actually fucking another woman. Rather than say "This isn't what it looks like!" or "Let me explain" or "OOPS!" he got up and said "What's wrong?" It floored her. I think she actually schismed at that point because half of the brain doesn't want to believe it is seeing what it is seeing and will actually make you think you are insane rather than believe a reality that shitty.

The Jessica Lynch rescue was such a blatant mindfuck that no one can believe it.

What she SHOULD do, is pose for Playboy, that would fuck everything up.

comments (83)

Remember how the initial reports had her, a maintenance crew member, gunning down many soldiers Rambo-style prior to her capture? Turns out her gun jammed due to sand particles. And yes the entire Bush administration as embodied by Donald Rumsfeld is the freaking elephant in the room. It's a pity none of the seven dwarfs stands a chance of unseating him.

by anna at November 8, 2003 5:02 PM

if she did pose for playboy, and positioned herself properly in front of the camera, we might be able to tell once and for all if that anal rape talk was truth or hoax.

by lajoie at November 8, 2003 10:28 PM

Anal? I didn't think they did that over there.

by anna at November 9, 2003 9:12 AM

you guys are some of the most rude and obnoxious people i have ever encountered. jessica lynch is a human soul, a child of God, and the fact she was rescued instead of killed was one of God's little gifts. maybe you all have forgotten about him. He had a say so in all this, and Jessica is alive for a reason, and it is a beautiful one.

by Bozo at November 9, 2003 11:17 PM

Bah; What a load of magical horse shit. Jessica Lynch, American hero. I dont think so. She should be honored for sure. She served her duty. Raped? I dont think so. Captured by religous fanatics with rape on there mind. uh huh. Tortured definatley. She and half the other supply line are not trained for combat, instead to sit behind a desk and act smug. Most clerical duty officers and enlisted memebers look down on combat trained soliders for their attiudes based and created on a constant high stress enviroment. I bet they respect the combat trained members now. Reports have been stated that our little blonde pretty girl was sceeming for help and never got a round out of the chamber. Her movie showes her handing off her weapon and ammo. Can you say oh my god. (I am in a hostile situation taking rounds. Here; Take my weapon and ammo leave me defensles.) Lol. If I were to do such a thing I would have been punished with an article 15. Life would have been hell. Instead. Little Lynch gets a Million dollar contract. Free fully paid education. And our hard paid tax dollars paying her sorry under weight, under trained ass the rest of her life. I love the fact that the person who actually had some balls and fought back got no recognition. I love the fact that the real fighters, the real heros recieved no recognition. I hope that the little snot nosed 2 year hich rookie under trained pile of crap gives her 1 Mill to the mother of the soldier that faught and died hard(2 stab wounds to the abdomen. One bullet to the leg. One bullet in the back) There is a hero. This person stood up(under trained. Scared. Out numbered) and gave it there all. Were was little Lynch. Cowering on the ground. I wish that movie was never played. It made me want to vomint. The movie is really a great advertisement for the Army. Yah join our glorius Army. The best in the world. We wont train you properlly.
We will send you overseas. We will not give you an armored escort. But if you cower away and act like a litte shit we will make your life easy. Great. We are going to have a bunch of little toothpick woman and snot nosed boys joining up. "Ah my M16 is to heavy. What no toliet paper, only the napkin in the MRE?. Were
are the out houses? No blankies?" As it stands now. State side training requires that if a woman is present in a unit so shall a porta-a-potty. But if its all men no port-a-potty will be present. Here is a litte diddy. The military is actually toying with the idea that woman should be allowed into the great and mighty field of artillery. Um can you see our little beloved Lynch picking up a 95 pound HE round and loading it into the breech of a cannon? Then after the round is fired actually being able to open the breech?(The breech is very very heavy and spring loaded. Held in place by a massive piece of steal that needs to be lifted up to release breech). Oh but that was just one round. Fire missions are rarely one round. Lets do this 30 - 50 times in ten minutes. Lol. I dont think so. Oh and will our mighty paladins(self propeled howitzers) actually have to mount a port-a-potty on the bustle racks? Of course every time the Howitzer stops the men will have to mount and dismount the toilet for the woman.(Not like they have enough todo as it is). "SGT! I have to make poopies. PVT male blah. Get out there and dismount that porta-a-potty" Ah I will stop ranting now. Whoever aired this should have thought twice. I see no heros here less the ones that actually resued here and dug up the bodies of the others. Leave it to Supply to screw things up. God bless.

by discrunteled soldier at November 10, 2003 9:51 AM

Having watched the Jessica Lynch movie and hearing her account of the rescue it makes me ill that our government would use that situation to try to bolster support for the war. I know it did make a good story, when they first released how she fought until she ran out of ammo after being shot, but it's the same shit this administration has been peddling since taking power. We have WMDs that haven't been found, we're after terrorists who may of may not have had anything to do with our country getting attacked and Bush's administration keeps on lying. You know, I don't disagree with going after terrorists or taking Hussein from power. I believe they both needed to be done but don't do it under false pretenses and lies. The state of affairs Bush has gotten the US into worldwide are atrocious. We have troops on the ground in two hostile countries taking daily casualties, Bin Laden is probably sunning himself in Monte Carlo with Hussein, we've alienated allies we need to help shoulder the financial and military burdens of Iraq and Afghanistan, we're waiting for another imminent terrorist attack on our soil, and North Korea has nuclear weapons and is getting ready to test one that will reach our shores. Who is coming up with the military priorities for this administration? You know, I have tried to defend the Bush administration's policies here as well as with my friends and family but it gets harder for me to believe every day. I am a very patriotic person but right is right and I don't believe a word that comes out of the White House now. Hopefully we can get that fool out of office and replace him with someone that can rebuild the relationships, with our allies, we are going to rely on if we continue to track down terrorists and others who would do us harm. I don't believe the US can do this alone and it grows more evident with each passing day.

by Ezy at November 10, 2003 10:54 AM

Soldier, when have you known the military to give awards to those who deserve them? You have REMFs getting handed silver and bronze stars just because they were in the same country where combat was going on. It isn't Jessica Lynch's fault that she was singled out to bolster war support by some propaganda artists in the Pentagon. The only problem I have with her is that she came under fire and never fought back. If her weapon jammed then it was probably due to lack of care. I carried the same M16 for three years and never had a jam. Why? Because I cleaned the damn thing every day when I was deployed. If anyone is to be blamed here it should be the NCO who was in charge for not having a mandatory weapons cleaning each day. You also said something I didn't quite agree with. You said that these support troops weren't trained for combat. While they weren't trained in an every day capacity as infantry they all attended and passed basic training including qualifying with their weapons. If the Army hasn't changed their policy since 1997, which I don't think they have, they also had to qualify, with their weapons, every year at their permanent duty station. This should've given them enough training to return fire and maybe put up a fight until someone could arrive. I'm sure they had radio contact at some point unless they were stupid enough to drive around without a radio. You also can't judge soldiers on their gender or outward appearances. Some of the best soldiers I met while serving didn't look the part at all or were women. Everyone has a job and not everyone is cut out for or should be in a combat MOS. If they can pass the physical and emotional tests without breaking though I believe they have every right to be there and should be afforded the same respect as everyone else. You have to be careful not to discriminate against those who aren't serving in a combat role. When you're out there fighting someone has to be supporting you so you get the supplies you depend on and pushing the papers that the military seems to need to get anything done. It takes the entire team to win battles. Not just combat troops.

by Ezy at November 10, 2003 1:12 PM

look at the difference between shoshanna's benifit package and jessica's.take time to find out who donald walters was.

by erectmonkey at November 11, 2003 10:38 AM

Lori Pestiewa, theHopi soldier, fought back. That fuckin' figures. Indians are always getting fucked for doing the right thing.

You know, I can't hardly even blame Lynch for being a shitty soldier, she had commanders.

What I hate about that movie was how pumped up and gungho everybody was made to look about going in for the big rescue when there was little to no opposition.

The American people should not have to put up with propaganda like this. It's amazing how much can be done in the name of entertainment.

by eff at November 11, 2003 11:29 AM

Most often Eff what is portrayed about military matters and what really went on are two totally different things. The media is concerned with ratings and not truth usually. There is always a ring of truth to it but some points are always inflated just to make the story better.

by Ezy at November 11, 2003 12:22 PM

I keep hearing that "they" created this story about her emptying her weapon and her treatment in the hospital. Now I see Rumsfeld brought into the mix. I gotta ask? First, who is they? The pentagon, the media, or your buddy Ralph? I would like to see someone print a quote from the pentagon. Please. I don't remember hearing them say it. I saw what the Washington Post printed and how it spread, but I never heard it from the Pentagon. Maybe they did say it, but I never saw it.

by Greg at November 11, 2003 2:41 PM

fuck all

thats it i said it

fuck you all american boyos.

by elf at November 11, 2003 2:42 PM

Lots of people have been saying bad things about Jessica, forgetting that she agrees with many of the things you guys are saying. She's innocent, so leave her the fuck alone and stop calling her names. You weren't there and don't know what happened. The thing to focus on is, as many have said, the misinformation and disturbing popoganda, the lies, the bullshit and Bushwhackery. What can be done? Talk to others, make postings, vote with intelligence (as many of you probably do), don't believe the lies, and help spread what you perceive to be the truth. Attacking Jessica will get you and your ideas no fans.

Just something to think about.

by Grunt at November 11, 2003 3:18 PM

Jessica lynch is nothing else other than a slutty whore

by Stud at November 11, 2003 3:28 PM

To Grunt, I agree with your first 3 sentences. After that I am at a loss. I think the claims of "misinformation and disturbing popoganda, the lies, the bullshit and Bushwhackery" are the lies and propaganda. Give are leaders some credit. If you let the media and hollywood run the country we would have no military to defend our nation, Fast food would be declared illegal, we would all pay 100% taxes, and then the money would be divided up equally so that we could all get the same health care, standard of living, blah blah, and nobody would work. Terrorism by foreign nations would be welcomed as deserved for our western arrogance.

by someone at November 11, 2003 3:30 PM

Wow! Bad sam must be ranking pretty high on Jessica Lynch searches. You're getting quality comments on this one Eff.

by Linz at November 11, 2003 3:32 PM

Soldier, you should rethink your position on Pvt Lynch. She is no less a soldier than you were. Maybe you were a tiger in your first fire fight- You've got testosterone on your side. The movies are the movies- can't believe in them- we are asked to temporarily suspend disbelief when we watch them. Case in point: The movie shows Lynsh's CO asking her about her cleaning her weapon as they leave their big truck to the grunts pulling it free. A few hours later it jams in a firefight- having just been cleaned. I know its sandy as a MF out there; but myM16 has been rolled around in all kinds of shit and still managed to hold up til the next cleaning.

The Pvt IS a pawn in our admins politics- no doubt. Propagandized- you bet. A puppet of the media and publishers few of us would not grab a million dollar carrot dangled in front of us. Remember she is a soldier and she was sent to fight in the broad sense of the word. The fact that she may or may not have been treated as badly as say John McCain is besides the point. She was one of ours that was captured and mistreated and no doubt fucked over by our enemies. I know we all want revenge for all of our people that have fallen victim to terrorism- both abroad and domestic- lets not heap a bunch of shit on any of our soldiers because they did not hold up to your expectations. You probably shit yourself a time or two- or damn near it if you've ever been in the shit. Go easy, we're on the same side here.

EZY, mre to the point, more on track. I'm with you. Defending our Admin's policy is getting harder to do. Sorry, but I can't go in for complete blind faith in Bush. He has oil interest and big Corp business interest in mind- no goddam doubt about it. I don't believe it's completely about oil... yet. I am, like many americans, thinking there is plenty gain happening because we have gone to war. The Bush admin is not hiding what they are doing from the people very well. I used to think it was a lot of left wing bullshit because their boy did not win the election; but the more I look into who is bennefitting from this war, the more I want a different President in charge. This last thing especially pisses me off- billions in aid given away.

Errectmonkey-charming. You are right about the disparity in treatment of Shoshanna. So what's new? Jessica the pawn again- it's not her fault that a plan was formulated to get her INSTEAD of Shoshanna. I'm sure the rescue of Shoshanna would have been an even better political coup for the Bush admin- it would have garnered more political contributions and votes from the Blacks in this country. Sad fact is they had intel that Pvt Lynch was in the hospital- no one knew where Shoshanna was yet. But not giving her the same bennies... man that's just screwing another GI. Clinton started it, and Bush continues screwing them without even having the common courtesy of giving them a reach-around.

Who the fuck is elf? Probably some loser that entered our borders illegally. Has family here and they are all on the nipple of the government for handouts. Always on about how "in their country...". ELF, screw you. You don't know shit about America. You just hate because your country is ass backwards after years of civilization. Your country has been around for probably thousands of years- what do they have to contribute to the world. Shit... that's right. They probably export bottled coconut meat, and everyone wears the same clothes without underwear. Americans have so much because we do so much. We've only been a country fr 2oo years and we do so dammed well that all the other countries buy our goods, watch our movies and covet our women. Stop smearing your little dick with unrefined oil from your greasey hair and do something positive for yourself and your family instead of watching porno and coming to this site to badmouth America until tomorrow when you can get your little erectmonkey up again.


ps what about that stupid Rosey Odennel... like anyone gives a shit!

by Ed at November 11, 2003 3:55 PM

I was curious about that too, Linz, when I noticed "72 users online." I checked why so, and found a lot of people getting referred here for this Jessica Lynch story. Un/fortunately, it's because we are ranking very high on "Jessica Lynch Nude" searches.

A little more on topic, I think it is very interesting that, while the J.L. tv movie was on one network, Lynch herself is giving an "exlusive" interview to a reporteress from another station. Seems she isn't all that happy about the movie, and the way in which it portrayed her. I have a strong feel this is a girl who had something bad happen to her (capture/torture) at the hands of an enemy, only to return hom and have the media in her own country treat her pretty crappy as well. If I were one of the other returned POWs, I'd almost be glad to slip under the big media radar. But, then again, they aren't reaping any sort of payday either, so I guess there isn't a clear winner here.

by mg at November 11, 2003 4:49 PM

Hey Bozo! Shut the fuck up!! Yes I'll agree that Jessica Lynch should personally be given a break. Whatever she did or didn't do, the Bush admins manipulations of the facts surrounding her are obvious. But I am sick to death of feeble-minded idiots like you who will find any excuse to interject "GOD" into any subject, no matter how irrelevant.

If you want to believe in “GOD”, fine! Have a great time with that. But I suggest you keep the preaching to yourself. I suspect you already know the few who want to hear it. They’re in your church or whatever other sort of institution of mind numbing indoctrination you attend.

Oh, if you can prove to me that “GOD” exists, (and that your interpretation of him is the correct one) I’ll shut up! But that means proving it!!! With facts!! Not all the circumstantial bullshit you people think passes for well thought out reasoning.

And please don’t attempt any higher ground with me, such as praying for me. If by the slimmest chance of possibility you zealots are correct, I think an eternity in hell would be preferable to the heaven you describe.


by menotyou at November 11, 2003 5:17 PM

MG, I thought those "72 users online" were here to see Linz's pics.

I hear ya Ed. Airborne!!

by Ezy at November 11, 2003 5:50 PM

It's usually such an insular little world here that we're shielded from this kind of commentary. Whatever cyber-shit resulted in all these hits, I welcome it.

by anna at November 11, 2003 7:16 PM

You dumb fuck, cleaning your M16-A2 every ten minutes will never keep it from jamming in a dirty environment. The weapon sucks for anything but qualifying on a nice clean rifle range on a clear, windless day. Nine years in the infantry has taught me that any asshole that says his weapon never jammed for three years, never actually used that weapon. What a Dickhead!

by itisme at November 11, 2003 7:18 PM

I am so sick of hearing about this little slut.. What did she do to be awarded these awards she got... she got lost , didnt fight like americans soldeirs make an oath to do, and survived like thousands of us did... Fuck her mater of fact dont fuck her leyt her go back to her little fucking redneck town and fuckin rot... And if anyones knows anyhting about the service you would know that dating some one in your chain of command is a fucking crime but everyone one is praising her getting railed by her Sgt. Fuck that charge her ass and throw her in the brig....

America needs a true hero...

by usmc skinhead at November 11, 2003 9:48 PM

Amazing, still no quote from the pentagon. Everyone seems to use the fact she got a medal as proof that this is Bush's and the pentagon's propaganda. What POW hasn't gotten a medal? Somebody give me a quote from the pentagon or Bush that is propaganda about Lynch. I'm betting you won't find it.

by Greg at November 11, 2003 10:38 PM

yall are some dumb fucks, she has more balls than any of yall, i bet yall wont fight for our country

by rab6211 at November 11, 2003 11:07 PM

I just watched jessica lynch on prime time and she even admits that she didnt fight back but lets cut the slut shit. The girl went over to fight for us she was wounded , captured and rescued, as she may not be a hero in everyones eyes, only because she didnt pull the trigger, at least she had the guts to go. Be proud of her I am!!

If she was claiming to do what the government said then I would say give it to her. but its our fanfuckingtastic government that thinks that the best thing to do is lie about everything. thats your culprit!!

Lay off of jessica and start bitching about the way the government handles things

by anon at November 11, 2003 11:18 PM

where can i see the pic of that little country bumpkin linch i bet her shit is wore out

by shuvit at November 11, 2003 11:28 PM

Jessica Lynch posed for nudy pictures, and Larry Flynt wont post them in his magazine, (Hustler). AHH the humanity! She got ass rammed by Iraqi's---that doesn't suprise me. Towel heads are all homo's and anal sex is their favorite. Bushy will try anything to get re-elected, but this time he picked the wrong blonde slut to focus on. She's a gun jammin'/ ass rammin'/ nudy picture takin'/ 80's hairstyle wearin'/ hick but I still love her. She's no hero, but even though she was ass rammed, I'd fuck her. I wouldn't even need a six pack. All you's who think she's not a hero, my dirty white hat off to ya. But those who support the president or the blood thirsty Hitler'esque regime that lick the balls of the elephant, do in fact lick balls and I'm hoping that Jesus comes back soon so he can send all you faggots to hell!! God Bless America!! Sincerely, MAC...

by MAC... at November 12, 2003 3:45 AM

MAC, If you think these towel heads are ass loving animals, how many of hour heroic soldiers you think got their asses busted in Iraq and let alone in Afghanistan. And how many are returning home as heroes but with missing ass gaskets. If our nation will keep sending new heroes overseas just to be busted by ass animals, we will probably soon start training and educating our soldiers how to be safely ass busted in the middle east and still want to live. Probably, a new medal will be awarded for heroes who were “ass busted in battle” in addition to a purple dick.

by jack at November 12, 2003 5:12 AM

(O) ----new "ass busted in battle" medal

by MAC... at November 12, 2003 5:38 AM

Some of you morons would be a LITTLE more worthy of my attention if you'd learn to spell.

Jessica is not a hero, and she is a soldier who did her duty. If the diaper heads will fuck a camel, why wouldn't they fuck an average looking American sweetheart? I just answered my own question. She may not be their type.

By the way, when we finish in Iraq (which, by the way, we need to go ahead and DO), we should swing by North Vietnam on the way home (with all our leftover bombs and missiles) and finish THAT job.

by steve at November 12, 2003 10:15 AM


You are right about Bush, but for the wrong reasons. The only reason I voted for him is that he is better than any Democrat by the SLIMMEST of margins. We need a true American party as an alternative to the republicrats. The Libertarians are the closest thing to an alternative so far.

by steve at November 12, 2003 10:22 AM

ITISME, the M16A2 is a shitty weapon but that doesn't mean it's unreliable if cared for properly. I take your attack and language to be a direct representation of your intelligence so I won't return in kind out of pity. Maybe you've been getting crappy 16s and mine was one of the good ones, I don't know. Maybe I just know how to care for a weapon and you don't, again I don't know. I do know that my M-16 didn't jam for three years while I was deployed to Bosnia, Haiti, Somolia, and Bolivia and yours seems to have frequent problems. Maybe you should go back over your weapons cleaning and try to do a little better.

by Ezy at November 12, 2003 10:22 AM


What do the following names all have in common?

USA Chief Warrant Officer 2 Ronald D. Young Jr
USA Chief Warrant Officer 2 David S. Williams
USA Spc. Edgar Hernandez
USA Spc. Joseph Hudson
USA Spc. Shoshana Johnson
USA Pfc. Patrick Miller
USA Sgt. James Riley
USA PFC. Jessica Lynch
USA SGT Edward J. Anguiano
USMC LCpl. Thomas A. Blair
USA Sgt. George Edward Buggs
USMC Pfc. Tamario D. Burkett
USMC Cpl. Kemaphoom A. Chanawongse
USMC Lance Cpl. Donald J. Cline, Jr
USAF Capt. Eric Das
USA Master Sgt. Robert J. Dowdy
USA Pvt. Ruben Estrella-Soto
USMC Pvt. Jonathan L. Gifford
USMC Pvt. Nolen R. Hutchings
USMC Cpl. Evan T. James
USA Spc. James Kiehl
USMC Sgt. Bradley S. Korthaus
USMC Pfc. Francisco A. Martinez Flores
USA Chief Warrant Officer Johnny Villareal Mata
USMC Staff Sgt. Donald C. May, Jr
USMC Lance Cpl. Patrick T. O'Day
PFC Kevin C. Ott
USMC Sgt. Fernando Padilla-Ramirez
SFC Gladimir Philippe
USA Pfc. Lori Piestewa
USMC Sgt. Brendon Reiss
USA Pvt. Brandon Sloan
USA Sgt. Donald Walters
USN Lt. Nathan D. White
USMC Lance Cpl. Michael J. Williams
USAF Major William Watkins

What do they all have in common, aside from being US Military? They are ALL former POW's in Iraq. Of course, all names listed after Jessica Lynch are all dead, killed by Iraqi forces.

Why am I writing this? Because I want to know where their TV movie of the week is. I want to know who is going to write their book. I want to know who is honoring them at an awards show.

I can tell you who is honoring them. Their families. We will not see the Nathan D. White movie anytime soon. We will not see his book on the shelves, winning awards and appearing on talk shows. Why not? Because he's dead.

So what is the deal with Jessica Lynch? She's a woman. That is it, end of fucking story. She's a woman, she's somewhat pretty, she's young and EVERYONE from NBC to the book publisher to Glamour Magazine (who gave Lynch and Shoshana Johnson the Women of the Year award) knew she could be USED to sell books, magazines and ratings.

"I was offered photos of Jessica Lynch. I purchased them in order to keep them out of circulation, not to publish them," Flynt, publisher of Hustler magazine, said in a statement read by a publicist.

"Jessica Lynch is being used as a pawn by the media and by the government to create a hero who can sell this war to the American people."

Flynt, no friend of the Bush administration or the Republicans, said the president is using Lynch "to justify the war in Iraq."

"The U.S. government wasn't alone in their actions," his statement said. "They were co-conspirators with the media, who wanted to force-feed us a Joan of Arc."

Flynt's spokeswoman declined to reveal how much he paid for the photos, or where they came from.

Rumors of nude photos of Lynch, 20, have been swirling for several months. All hail our nude and not so sweet POW hero.

Did Lynch really care? Not after the millions of dollars she's getting out of the deal.

It's hypocritical to honor this person for being captured. Thats all she did. At best, she's a fuck up, not a hero. If you want to honor someone, honor the dead soldiers who won't be remembered by the mainstream media a year from now.

Fuck Jessica Lynch. Fuck NBC. Fuck CBS. Fuck Glamour magazine and fuck anyone who is convieniently forgetting that there are other POW's, some living and most dead, who are not being honored.

And, most important, FUCK THE BUSH ADMIMISTRATION. Why? Because A group of veterans who were held prisoner during the 1991 Gulf War have brought a lawsuit against Iraq for their mistreatment in captivity. Guess what? They won!!! They won big!!! The judge in the case said they were to be paid from the current frozen assets of Iraq.

What did ol' "Dubya" say? He said no. It seems that instead of paying our POW's for their pain and suffering from defending our country, they spent all that money, so they say, rebuilding Iraq.

This is odd, especially when you look back to the first Gulf War and the U.S. government was paying between $4,000 and $7,000 to relocate each of the enemy prisoners -- and in some cases their family members that had been classified as refugees who would be harmed by Iraqi President Saddam Hussein if returned home.

So, we'll pay to ease the pain and suffering of the enemy, but not the pain and suffering of our soldiers? I guess they need to have tits for people to care...

What the fuck is that all about? Hypocracy at it's best and I can not believe our government is allowing all this horseshit to go on.

by Coma at November 12, 2003 1:02 PM

It seems that the word "fuck" is essential to explaining why the government is bad.

Actually, ithe word seems to be a valuable tool in the discussion of any idea on this site.

You know you're dealing with a real intellectual if they can throw in a "fuck" every sentence or so.

And it's really persuasive. Keep up the good work.

by comma at November 12, 2003 4:59 PM

Comma, I think fuck is absolutely acceptable to use when describing Bush's abortion of an administration. Maybe asshat? I believe some use it as a strong point of emphasis but not all. Some use it out of ignorance and lack of a better word.

by Ezy at November 12, 2003 5:19 PM

Your original comment about a woman walking in on her husband who incongruously asks "what's wrong?" is an old story. Bernard Goldberg mentions the same incident from a sixties movie in his new book. Cynical attitude is great but don't make shit up.

by Geoff at November 12, 2003 5:30 PM

Maybe they use the word "fucK" much like some people yell in the course of an argument, instead of having actual intelligence in what they are saying.

by comma at November 12, 2003 6:27 PM

Some quick points of clarification:

Almost all HRT ops are filmed.
If the rescue was a low risk extraction, there were some nameless, faceless men who prepared the battlefield prior to the operation. Whether it was through overt force, or covert coercion, it is a testament to American small unit tactics.
Who told you that Naval Special Warfare teams would ever go anywhere with blanks?
Iraqi Soldiers are not religious fanatics. The regime has always been staunchly anti Islam. Iraqi soldiers are also widely notorious for rape, not only of the enemy but their own people. They follow in the footsteps of Uday and Qusay. It is extremely unlikely that Pfc. Lynch was not sexually brutalized in every imaginable way.
Memory loss following a severe trauma is extremely common, particularly among young rape victims.
And now to the opinion part of this post. An NBC/Bush conspiracy? Come on. Sure, the White House used the story to build up support back home, this is a common tactic and has been going on for centuries. Everyone else sees an oportunity to make a quick buck. Thats all it is, thats capitalism, thats what we're fighting for.

by Scandal at November 12, 2003 6:38 PM

Guess you have covered it all

by Paul at November 12, 2003 6:43 PM

I wish Larry Flynt would publish the nude photos of Jessica Lynch. I don't give a shit about her, but she looks pretty good.


by Jaybird at November 12, 2003 8:50 PM

I don't know if such pix exist but if so that is her decision whether they are made available. But one thing's for sure---she was serving her country as best she could so why not get off her back. You people that are knocking her and searching for naked pix of her should reconsider the purpose of your lives.

by anna at November 12, 2003 10:51 PM

I don't know if such pix exist but if so that is her decision whether they are made available. But one thing's for sure---she was serving her country as best she could so why not get off her back. You people that are knocking her and searching for naked pix of her should reconsider the purpose of your lives.

by anna at November 12, 2003 10:52 PM

this entire line of "reasoning" is some funny shit

by none at November 13, 2003 1:11 AM

Aren't the Heroes in this mess, the Iraqis defending their country
against invasion?

by Joe at November 13, 2003 2:16 AM

After reading all this, I can surely say ther are some serious fuck-heads posting here. J. Lynch is just another stupid private that fucked up in a situation and was captured. Sure im looking for naked pics, she has nothing else to offer. All you sycophants bowing down need to wake up and smell the bullshit. She is a cocksmoker for pics, and i want to see them.

Yes i was in the army,
No, i think there is no fucking God,
Yes, you can kiss my ass

by mudge at November 13, 2003 3:08 AM

Jesus H. Christ! And I didn't even have to talk about strippers this time. There sure are a lot of assholes out there, huh?

Who the fuck is Bernard Goldberg and why should I give a shit? I didn't make it up and I certainly wouldn't need to get it from Bernard Fucking Goldberg. Chances are, Bernard Goldberg got it from me because I've been telling that story since 1984 when my buddy's boss at the Little Corner Store told him that's what happened to her. Now was she crazy? Was she lying? Maybe, but i tell you what, she didn't get that shit from Bernard Goldberg either.

by Eff at November 13, 2003 6:13 PM

Oh and another thing I noticed in the Jessica Lynch movie, they changed the name of Lori Pestiewa to fucking Escobar. What the hell? Oddly enough, that was probably the worst thing in that movie which was mostly just too middle of the road boring to be controversial after all was said and done.

Still, I'd have to think that if she had been raped, especially sodomized, she would have an inkling. Even if she didn't remember it happening, that shit is gonna make you sore as hell.

by Eff at November 13, 2003 6:29 PM

Hey Joe,

You are a fuck-tard.

by steve at November 13, 2003 6:45 PM

I love the word "fuck" and it is probably quite pervasive in my vocabulary, but using obscenities when trying to argue rationally does derail your credibility. Comma, funny comment.

I wonder if this post will beat mg's old osama posts as the winner of the "most deranged lunatic comments" award.

by Linz at November 14, 2003 9:58 AM

I don't know how anything will ever be able to beat the surrealness of the world's largest penis post, especially considering there aren't any racist or pedophillic comments among them.

As for "fuck," I checked and the word appears (at least in the body of posts) in less than 1/6 of all entries. I think that is a pretty low incidence for a site of this... quality.

by mg at November 14, 2003 10:24 AM

Jessica Lynch is one of the most repulsive people in the media today, but in a close tie with Rosie O'Donnell. Anyway, she is basically a poster child for future recruitment of incompitent U.S. military soldiers. It pisses me off the fact that my tax dollars are paying little bitches who think they have the physical capacity and emotial duribility on an equal plain with "most" (not all, calm down you dikes) men. Most of the women who do join the service go because they want to prove to themselves that they can do what they inevitably can't, and or to get gang banged by as many guys as they can. Hello tax payers again please pay for some dirty sluts fucking kid. Though it could be anybody's for all we know because she's passing out that fucking coochie all over the barracks. Yeah and I love the fact how the empathetic fucking american public falls in love with this inbred little bitch, then nude photos come out. Thats fucking classic. Open your eyes people! Little good girls don't take nude photos in a big circle of guys. Oh, and she wants to be a teacher. Thats great! teach little kids that when they are being paid to do a job "like defend this country" to throw down your weapon, start crying, and spread your legs. When people ask what happened, just say you can't remember. And manage to do all of this at the tax payers expense. You are an insult to anyone and everyone who has fought for this country. Soldiers who know what a real Hero is. Fuck you, you little slut. Fuck you.

Rot in hell in your little imbed town you discusting waste of human flesh.

by lemenz at November 14, 2003 2:16 PM


Fuck you.

by steve at November 14, 2003 2:54 PM

Hey Steve, why don't you suck a dick and fuck off you cretin. (see, sometimes fuck is useful)

by Ezy at November 14, 2003 4:20 PM

MG, that 1/6th is probably me. I have a true affinity for the word fuck and there are times when no other word will suffice.

by Ezy at November 14, 2003 4:26 PM

Well it certainly isn't me saying fuck all the time. Lord knows I try to keep a lid on the old effenheimer when engaged in quality discourse. Frankly, I never realized just how high the quality of discourse was around here until some of these recent fucks showed up. Such hatefulness, raw and unrefined. I mean, I've got plenty of hate to go around, but at least I focus it a bit, you know?

I resent Jessica Lynch being used to bolster support for the war, but that doesn't make her any more of an inbred little slut than the rest of us.

Of course, this isn't really about discourse, it's about anonymity. People are animals who just want to roll around in their own shit so long as nobody is watching.

by eff at November 14, 2003 4:34 PM

I'm not sure if it's hate or lack of vocabulary Eff. Some of these morons would probably love to be able to have an intelligent debate but just can't find the words to successfully pull it off.

by Ezy at November 14, 2003 5:34 PM

I just don't want those people who popped in here for the first time to think that those a-holes are somehow representative of the otherwice high-level discourse that goes on here. I suppose discourse would be an inaccurate term, though the comments are usually pretty productive, but the posts are really more about creative expression. In this way, BS is more like a literary magazine with instant, high-quality feedback. Now I'm taking my Linz pics home to jerk-off.

by Eff at November 14, 2003 11:36 PM

From reading your past stories, it seems like you recieve plenty of feedback. BS has shown itself to be a great place to either show the facade of an ignoramus or literary scholar (while still remaining an enigma). I prefer to crank yank than to give constructive criticism, hopefully I can find Jessica Lynch's nudy pictures to ease the yank of my crank. But in the meantime

by MAC... at November 15, 2003 12:19 AM

HEY EZY. Hug a nut you queer bitch. I likely have more intellect in the pimples growing upon my rosey ass than you have in you entire family. Backwoods hick. trying to pass off horseshit stories about your military history. Think very hard about this ... I know who you are for real. You see me at least a few times a week, and I know your a poser that knows about as much about an M16A2, as I know about shoeing horses.. which is absolutely nill. you can reply if you like, but I will not likely be back to this pathetic site, as I have much better ways to spend my time than to school nitwitts like you in verbal jousting. So long ass wipe!

by Schlonger at November 21, 2003 1:25 AM

Hey Schlonger, if you truely did know me you would know I can back up everything I say here with facts if need be. I can provide pictures or people who were with me overseas, either is fine with me. If you don't even have the balls to say who you really are then I don't think you deserve a response even though I am giving in to temptation here. I will be e-mailing you in a second and if I do see you regularly we can have a talk about this, in person, at your convienience. What I do think is that you're a little fucking coward who was probably hiding behind your mama while people better than you were off defending this country. You fucking schmuck. MG, can you send me where this little bitch is commenting from?

by Ezy at November 21, 2003 9:51 AM

Fuck him up, Ezy. Goddamn pussy. I hate people who pull that "I know who you really are" shit like they are stalking you and can strike at any fucking time and we can't do shit about it. Nail him! Nail him up, I say!

by Eff at November 26, 2003 5:15 PM








by cleo flener at December 1, 2003 12:13 PM

Eff, the funny thing is that I sent an e-mail to the account that bone-head linked here and guess what? No response. I knew it was bullshit when I read it. No one who sees me a few times a week would say anything even close to that about me because they know I speak the truth. It's just some little fag behind a keyboard looking to screw with someone they can't. Pathetic.

by Ezy at December 1, 2003 1:00 PM

I believe Schlonger is probably Steve from above that told Linz to fuck off and I jumped his shit.

by Ezy at December 1, 2003 1:03 PM

To bring some civility back to this thread, I'd just like to congratulate Cleo on the excellent poem. I love how you rhyme "WEDDING DAY" with "VETERANS DAY." Just so beautiful.

by mg at December 1, 2003 1:06 PM

It did bring a tear, MG.

by Ezy at December 1, 2003 1:38 PM

Jessica lynch is nothing else other than a slutty whore

by Stud at November 11, 2003 03:28 PM

Whoever said this is a complete looser! You do not even know who this girl is. This Marine would kick your fat ass for talking disrespectful about a women. What would you do if you were in a room and being fired at. Out of shape fat bastard would crawl in the corner just like Jessica.

by SBDI4 at January 1, 2004 8:43 PM

For those of you who think Jessica Lynch is a hero and we should "just leaver her alone" and we should be proud of her and blah! blah! good soldier (my ass!) blah.... blah! are so wrong. Esp. those of you who know nothing about the Military do not know why people and Soldiers are upset. Have you taken in the fact that there were so many brave soldiers that have given there lives fighting mind you not hiding because their weapon was jammed, because they failed to clean their weapon at all. No! they stood up fought and gave everything they could. Now those are soldiers that deserve any publicity. Jessica now whines because she's a supposed "victim" of the government, boo fucking hoo! No she wasn't she could've stated it like it was instead of pretending to be a hero and go out Rambo style. But she never and she could've stated that she didn't want any type of publicity. I know if I were Jessice, I wouldn't have excepted anything and told it like it was. Due to the fact that I had not done anything and didn't deserve anything special because I hid while my fellow soldiers died fighting. I wouldn't except it because had I would've been plagued with guilt. It would've haunted me forever, knowing I am looked at as a hero when I am not. Those who are hero's, are completely overlooked. I.E. a female soldier died in the arms of her husband when they were attempting to diffuse a bomb or how the female soldier was in combat and grabbed a male soldiers weapon after he was shot and killed and began shooting at enemies and holding them off while the platoon retreated. When they retreated they thought it was the male soldier and found out it was the female that has so much courage and valor. She could've just ran away and hid like Jessica Lynch but she didn't she stood her ground and was a true hero and soldier. She wasn't a soldier and as someone said just a stupid private! plain and simple! Esp. supply.... go figure.... So I will get off my soapbox but! before I do. Her brother is in the 160th and allegedly she is rather well known around her..... I was told that there are videos of her floating around in the 160th BN. I would so pay money to see her fall from her little pedestal!


by ef7904 at April 1, 2004 11:00 AM

anyone who says "ya'll" much less spell ya'll as yall should be shot like any inbred idiot from Podung W. Virginia or KY or TN... hint hint rab6211 and you are so clueless. Please do us a favor and don't procreate

by deez..... at April 1, 2004 11:09 AM

i am not american - i am scottish - i surfed past here by chance and my god what an incredibly opinionated and vicious bunch you are. and you wonder why the world hates you? and what did that girl do to deserve this abuse? got captured, didnt fight, posed for home nude photos? so what? most people here need to get a life and fast. you invaded a country for no good reason. for our sins we followed. history will show what a monumental disaster that was. my sympathies go to your serviceman, regardless of politics, for fighting or just being away from home for years to protect such a pathetic self obsessed and positively vile bunch as you...

by stu at June 1, 2004 6:29 AM


by jessicatrash at September 29, 2004 5:52 PM

I think jessica is a piece of shit pog cunt whore.she sucked cock the whole time in kuwait and loved it now she is rich for cowardice..I think all real bad asses of the war such as my fellow brothers in combat arms that volunteered specifically to fight and not for college money and benefits like that white trash piece of shit should be able to punch her in the face for accepting all that shit she didnt deserve as a matter of fact all worthless females should be kicked out of the military right now the u.s. spends way too much money on them to service their cock riddled cunts and assholes back home people think they are doing good thing but they do not know the bitter truth all they do is suck up cock and money from the military and they are all worthless as far as combat goes their little cunts bleed all the time and they are allways getting hurt to hell with that kick their sorry asses out now

by jessicapogbitch at September 29, 2004 6:00 PM

My fiancee, LCPL Michael J. Williams, was killed along with 18 other Marines who were the first to try and go in and rescue Lynch and the other members with her from the 507th. There has been no mention of them, or the fact that 18 Marines were killed as a result of THEIR mistake. It is great that Lynch was rescued and that she wasn't killed...BUT WHAT ABOUT MIKE AND THE OTHER MARINES THAT WERE KILLED THAT DAY? What about the other members of the 507th that were with her? I realize I am a little late in my postings on this, but I happened to have just found it on the web. I am still outraged at all of this...It may have to do with the fact that I have absolutely NO CLOSURE...And I know that the other family members of the others that were killed feel the same way. The only place I do find peace is in the fact that Mike was proud to be doing what he was doing over there, he was a proud Marine, and he died doing exactly the way he would have wanted to. Again, I realize my post on here comes a little late, but I had to put in my two cents.

by Heather Strange at October 13, 2004 4:16 PM

Heather, first let me say how sorry I am that you lost your fiance. Having served myself, I understand how some get recognition while others don't. The media plays a huge part in that I believe. They pick the best story that they see out there and run with it. Unfortunately, soldiers, marines, airmen, and sailors whose missions fail seldom receive any recognition. It just doesn't pass the "good story" test. A bunch of special operations troops busting in a hospital and rescuing a wounded female soldier is news. The Army, when I was in, could control a lot of its own publicity. I would say it's no different with the Marine Corps upper command and generals serving in D.C. No military wants the complete truth to come out to the American people. War is some very nasty business and most Americans are ill equipped to handle the brutality. The American public was made privy to much of the Vietnam War and you can see how effectively the media can influence public opinion. You just don't hear the stories of many of the troops fighting and dying in Iraq because maybe, as courageous and spectacular as they may be, they have too many troops dying. Eighteen well trained Marines and a failed rescue mission doesn't quite tug on the heartstrings of America quite like an ill trained support convoy being hit, women being involved and a special ops mission to go retrieve them. It sucks ass and I don't agree with any part of it but that is what I think is going on. Sorry again for your loss. Airborne.

by Ezy at October 13, 2004 11:00 PM

Thank you Ezy...I must clarify a little bit though. Those Marines...The 1 battalion, 2 Marine division, was staged outside of the city waiting for their word to go...They watched as the 507th drove past them, staright into the heart of the city. They moved in sooner than they should have because of the 507th's accident. Their original mission was not to save the 507th, it was to take control of the bridges over the Saddam Canal and the Euphrates River. An Nasiriyah was not supposed to be hositle...Anyhow, as they got closer to the city, they began taking heavy fire from the Iraqis...The Marines had to call in an air strike...My fiancee and his fellow Marines in the AAV with all of the wounded they had loaded up were hit with one of the Mavericks that the A-10's dropped. That is what initially disabled their AAV. A couple of minutes after being disabled by the United States Air Force, their AAV was hit with mortar rounds from the Iraqis and the AAV destroyed beyond recognition, along with everyone inside. I am not bitter or angry towards anyone in this matter...Not the Army, not the Air Force, and certainly not the Marines. Yes...it is quite unfortunate how the media can be so persuasive in peoples opinions, and how a small female soldier being rescued is more news than 18 Marines brutally losing their lives because they had to change their mission at the very last second to go save them. As I said before...Mike died proud and honorably, and he died exactly how he would have wanted to...War is war, and it is ugly. Innocent people die...Mothers, fathers, husbands, sons, daughters, boyfriends, girlfriends, and fiancees...They are all the few and the proud who bravely choose to serve their country. I thank God each and every day for all of them...We are safe because of them and because of people like my fiancee. There are so many that have passed since all of this started...It is just hard when it affects you personally to be OK with the fact that not EVERYONE can be honored the way they should be...

by Heather Strange at October 14, 2004 12:01 PM

I wish that every troop could get the recognition, from the mainstream media, that every last one deserves. I have had friends die in the Gulf, before I was even in the military, Somolia and I never once saw any national media coverage for them. Their hometown papers and news sources carried the story but nothing past that.

Thanks for the clarification on the story. That makes it that much more tragic in my opinion. I understand the need for a quick strike and push, while the enemy is on their heels, but you can't string a convoy out that thin with no rear support, which is how the war plan ended up. It was a virtual race for Baghdad. Any support troops in the convoy should've had some rear protection. If that would've happened they probably could've extricated the 507th and the 1st B 2nd D wouldn't have had to abort their initial mission and gone to their aid. I don't think we sent enough troops initially to completely do the job. Yes, we won but we also lost a lot of good people needlessly in my opinion.

Hell, the 507th was lost. They shouldn't have even been where they ended up. I have nothing against reserve military forces and they can be a huge asset, in some circumstances, but they should never be in areas that haven't been cleared by professional soldiers. It really isn't their fault; they just aren't trained well enough for the task. Your courage is stunning. I would be pissed at the world. I know that no good could come from that but I'm not sure I would handle it this well.

by Ezy at October 14, 2004 2:54 PM

Hi Ezy,

I completely agree with you...There were way too many good people lost...and it is still happening. I live right by Camp Pendleton now, and you can always tell when someone from there has been lost by the extrememe amount of news media gathered at the front gate. It breaks my heart every time I see it...As for you saying you don't know if you would handle my situation as well...I disagree. I don't know you or anything about you, but it is amazing what happens to a person when they are faced with such tragedy. Of course, everyone is going to deal with it differently...I realized just how short life really was, and how truly not to sweat the small stuff. I also realized what an impact I made on his life by the words he was writing to me in the few letters I recieved. It isn't about the years in your life, it is about the life in your years (Abraham Lincoln). And how true that is...It doesn't matter how long you live, all that matters is what you do in those years and what you stand for in those years that matters the most. I made a difference in his life in ways I could have never even imagined by just being myself and loving him the only way I knew how. That is what was important. If you can look back and see that it truly is the little things that make a difference, even if it doesn't seem like it at the time, and if you can look back and see that those little things are what meant the most...then that is all that matters...Not what you get for it, or what you get out of it, but what THEY got FROM it and what THEY got out of it...

by Heather Strange at October 18, 2004 4:33 PM

To all you sorry, sorry motherfuckers who are sitting here complaining about this, that, and the other.. I have but one thing to say to you:

Enjoy the very fucking fabric of freedom that people like Army PFC Jessica Lynch helped to provide for you, you ungrateful pieces of shit.

Y'know... it's panty-wastes like the lot of you who are sitting here bitching about how fake her story is, how she manipulated the media and the American public, and all the rest of the horshit I've read thus far... it's those of YOU who need to sit your fat, fucking lazy civilian candy-asses out there in that fucking oven of a hell-holeand see how YOU would react when fucking people you don't even know - could care less about knowing - are shooting to KILL your asses.

I pity you people.

by Mind_Over_Matter at August 7, 2005 7:09 AM

Who fucking cares? I am in the unit, by the way we are E 5/52 now. We know she was a shitbag soldier. Yeah, her rifle malfunctioned due to lack of maintenance. Yes, she was captured, we all know it was built-up into something it wasn't. Nobody fucking cares so drop it before I drop you.
One Team One Fight.

by Combat Ready at June 16, 2006 2:59 PM

Ive seen a topless photo of this girl. She has a nice set. The fact that young Jessica took some topless photos with her buddies means nothing. It has no bearing whatsoever on what happened on the sands of Iraq. Look around yourselves people, the times and morals have changed. In today's digital America, that's typical behavior for an average "all american girl."

by the machinist at August 8, 2006 4:33 AM

Jessica Lynch yes right. Did someone say she was a hero? Strange use of words. Now she is all critical of the military for their handling of her story. She really thinks it was all about her, me, me, me. I stood up and took the oath and I served so I have the right to my opinion. Just like the traitor Murtha. Just goes to show that being recoginized as a war hero does not make you one and former recognized war heros can be slimballs too. Her gun jammed. Did she pick one up from one of her fallen comrads? Did she do anything to keep her fellow soldiers from dying? All I can say is bullshit. In a state of panic, she did nothing and the only reason she is still alive is because she is a woman and the enemy knows how we react to a captured woman. She should be kissing the boots of the soldiers that rescued her and not bitching about how the government made it look. The pea brain that I quote from the first post that says:"It is against the law to use propaganda against the American public" needs to study his law a bit better. The Democrats and liberals are just as guilty of as anyone. I served, I followed orders, I kept my opinions to myself. As long as the orders are lawful, that is a soldier's duty. Piss on these "so called" heros. They don't know the meaning of the word. Tillman is a hero and not for joining just to get some college money but because he loved this country. No matter how he died he is a true hero. He gave up what Jessica Lynch never had and traded it for honor and country.

by Hammer at April 24, 2007 11:39 PM

check out the first person reports of american pilots captured in gulf war one who tell of how the iraqis break their legs and arms as a mode of interrogation - gee, wonder how a 103 lb female could get so many arm and leg injuries

all u fat shits sitting at home whining about being poor victims of lies can shut the f up because u all know if u went through what private lynch did you'd all be huddled in ur mommies homes reciting verses from the koran to continue to please ur iraqi captors


by Nick at April 26, 2007 1:50 AM

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