It is sad the way a family can come apart in a heartbeat. I was covering a trial in a nearby town last Thursday. This kid went on a shooting spree last April and shot at two cops. Both lived but come trial time, the kid says he was suicidal and wanted the cops to kill him becasue he was addicted to kiddie p0rn and was so ashamed that he could not go on living.
Forget this kid for a second, he is obviously messed up, but think about how his parents must feel. They are well off, more or less happy, then one day they get up at 3 am and find their increasingly depressed son is about to go on a shooting spree, that he is addicted to looking at kids in the wrong way and that, after a bench trial, he is about to go away if not for the rest of his life, for the rest of your life. That's got to suck to an extent most of us cannot fathom.
Every member of this kid's family lost it on the stand in front of bystanders and the media. His lawyer was a grandstanding prick who used the kiddie angel to get some media attention. Ironic when you consider the one thing this kid didn't want everyone in the world to know about was his addiction. That cat is officially out of the bag.
The only way to relieve the blood-guilt is to publicly admit one's flaw. It's catharthis, better now, before it got to actual kiddy-kidnap or such. Because uncared for, that is an addiction that can grow wild.
Daughter of darkness....stay out of my life...
by ALHPAHEED at February 2, 2003 10:26 PM
Wait, how old is this "kid." If he's a kid, it it really "kiddie porn" to him? It may just be regular porn. I mean, when I was 10, I definitely wanted to see pictures of 10-year-old poon.
by Eviltom at February 2, 2003 11:36 PM
Nice, Eviltom. Very nice.
by Linz at February 3, 2003 9:33 AM
Those kind of things are funny. It always amazes me when an addiction of one type or another drives a crime. (I work as a Prosecutor - Asst Dist. Attorney to you U.S. folks). Kiddie porn addiction isn't so common but hell it certainly messed that kid up didn't it?
The kids that are really messed up around where I live are stealing or fighting or trying to get themselves shot over Crystal Meth. I had a girl breakdown at the podium when she was sentenced because the probation order she got for stealing her parents car (joyriding) had a curfew. She couldn't stand the curfew because it meant she wouldn't be able to go out at night and get high. Broke down and told the judge she was "hooked".
Her parents were clearly at a loss... Much as you feel for these people there is very little the court system can do to help fix their addictions or help them fix their families.
Lawyers who work angles to get press for themselves without considering how the publicity harms their clients are unethical in my view. Most of the time the least amount of publicity is the best for their client.
by ChuckWoolery at February 3, 2003 2:03 PM
I actually kind of found the "poon" comment rather funny.
Nice, Eviltom. Very nice. (but I actually mean it, no sarcasm here)
by ChuckWoolery at February 3, 2003 2:05 PM
Who says I was being sarcastic? I thought that was top quality Grade A humor!
I met a 22-year-old addict at the park a few months ago who had just lost his girlfriend to a heroin overdose but still wasn't sure he could stay clean (he was one month straight but not in good shape). It's pretty crazy to see that shit up close & personal. I shudder to think Requiem for a Dream is someone's reality.
by Linz at February 3, 2003 2:31 PM
Thankyou, thankyouverymuch. I'll be here Thursdays and Fridays, through the end of the month. Hey, don't forget to tip the wait staff!
by Eviltom at February 3, 2003 3:28 PM
Okay, so in some cases there are mitigating circumstances. But it seems like going all the way back to the Menendez brother trials, every criminal has a handy excuse. And yes, "10-year-old poon" is funny any way you slice it. Wait a minute, that doesn't sound right...
by Anna at February 3, 2003 5:59 PM
Hey no question. Sympathy is one thing, but they should still be put away from society until society can be safe from them.
That kid that shot at the police because of his kiddie porn addiction? I seem to recall that he's going away for a long time. Until the end of his parents life etc...
But you can still have some empathy for the kids family, if not for the kid himself...
The Menendez brothers are of course a different thing...some criminals or their families don't garner alot of sympathy or empathy from me.
- poon; 1. noun. any large Indo-Malayan evergreen tree of the Genus Calophyllum
10 year old tree?
by ChuckWoolery at February 3, 2003 8:22 PM
I'm beginning to really like you Chuck.
by mg at February 3, 2003 8:47 PM
I feel a MG/Chuck spark happening!
by Eviltom at February 3, 2003 9:18 PM
Empathy and Sympathy, please get it straight. Did your son shoot at police and suffer from a similar addiction? If yes. I'm sorry. If not, then you could only sympathize with the situation, Mr. Woolery.
by LOCKHEED at February 3, 2003 9:29 PM
Correcting someone's use of words, ESPECIALLY on a technicality, is pretty annoying.
by Eviltom at February 3, 2003 9:40 PM
Especially when he's not correct himself.
Empathy :the power of identifying oneself mentally with (and so fully comprehending) a person or object of contemplation.
Empathy isn't limited to family or to someone that you know personally.
If anything Sympathy is a term which requires a more familial connection.
by ChuckWoolery at February 4, 2003 1:20 AM
Sympathy is just feeling sorry for someone, empathy is when you feel their pain (clinton imitation).
Back here in the column i wrote that it is entirely possible to have sympathy OR empathy for these people and still see that justice is done. This 21 year old was very childlike, so I call him kid, but his father was so crushed. Here was a strong man who had done his best all these years. He loved his kid and nothing was wrong with their lives until a few months before the shooting spree when the kid started to get depressed, sleeping late, staying up at nights and what not.
They tried to get him some help but things excalated so fast that one day he is taking wellbutrin and the next he is trying to commit suicide by cop and begging his father to shoot him when it doesnt work because "he is a monster."
here's my thing, viewing those pics of kids is pretty much as bad as molesting since the desire for that material creates the crimes. It's like eating meat. You cant say you arent responsible for animals being killed if you eat meat three times a day because there is a connection.
I feel sorry for anybody who has compulsions especially in such an obviously immoral direction, but for God's sake, if you must kill yourself, do it yourself. The only thing that makes you a bigger pussy than killing yourself is trying to get a cop to do it. That isn't their job. YOu know how many cops kills themselves becasue they can't live with the guilt of shooting somebody?
I don't either but I bet its higher than the number of cops of who kill themselves who never had to shoot anybody.
this guy's lawyer made sure the press was there every day and came over to talk to the cameras (no newspapers). This case would have gotten attention, but not as much as it did when he assured everyone this kid had a big terrible secret that would be revealed at some point during the trial.
by eff at February 4, 2003 11:29 AM
SORRY. I was just getting JEALOUS at MR. WOOLERY because he's trying to steal my boyfriend MG. Once again, I apologize. Hebrew is my native tongue, not english. I'm filled with shame. And what the fuck EVILTOM, I was just trying to be my old annoying self, the LOCKHEED you enjoy. You got beef? YOU FUCKING GOT BEEF? YOU WANT TO KNOW THE DEFINITION OF EVIL? WELL, DO YOU?!!!!! HUH? YOu in MANHATTAN? HUH? ANY FUCKING TIME, MR EVILTOM's CABIN.
by LOCKHEED at February 4, 2003 4:57 PM
One day I'll learn how to post something that will spark civilized discourse that morphs into a brouhaha. But seriously, I always enjoy your point of view Eff. Also, in regard to that crazy bitch who wants to read all your professional output, why not steer her here?
by Anna at February 4, 2003 6:44 PM
Yeah, that's not gonna happen. Like I said, she isn't
"FUN" crazy, she's pathetic, sad crazy. Not crazy/beautiful, but crazy/ugly. She has the soul of roadkill and the intellectual capacity of a 9-volt battery.
by eff at February 5, 2003 10:20 AM