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Fuck the French

by effenheimer at 08:29 AM on February 15, 2003

I have been listening to some pretty hateful things being said about our so-called “allies.” Normally, it would be my task to find the middle ground between them and us, but today I feel more like jumping on the bandwagon instead.

To begin, we live in a world where it is becoming increasingly less acceptable and, dare I say, more immoral, to hate people because of their race, ethnicity and the color of their skin. It is a great thing this reduction of irrational prejudice, but all that deep-seated “us vs. them” tension innate to human beings has to go somewhere. Since fat people are the most obvious fall guy and I am a fat guy, I would like to cast my vote for a group of people who have done more to incur the disgust of the world lately besides us and the Visigoths. But of course, I speak of none other than the French.

The French have volunteered time and time again throughout history to step up and be the world’s whipping boy. They like to be hated, it makes them feel superior, so why not give them what they want? Our world desperately needs someone to toss around like a lacrosse ball, why not make it the French?

I am not a big fan of our inevitable war with Iraq. In fact, I believe this fait accompli is as contrived as the plot of “The Waterboy” and just once it would be nice if our elected officials could resolve international conflicts using nothing more deadly than really intense negotiations arbitrated by a neutral third party. Kindergartners call this “diplomacy.”

Regardless of the reasons behind the reasons of American foreign policy, it irritates me no end that our so-called Gallic allies under the leadership of Chirac have no intention of standing by the one country that has hauled their foie gras out of the fire more times than Chef Paul Prudhomme at a Boy Scout Jamboree.

Not to call in old markers or anything, but the French owe us so much the vig alone is worth more than all the truffles in Périgord. They folded like deck chairs on the Titanic in W.W. II. The number of Americans alone who died on D-Day should make France our willing tool well into the 22nd century.

At least the French caved to us as fast as they caved to the Germans, but it certainly wasn’t personal. The way I understand it, they had to THINK about it. In the end, it is probably better to have the French fight alongside your enemy than alongside you. A handful of American Army Reservists with shotguns could defeat the French Army and still make it back to work on Monday while the average fishing boat could outrun the French Navy’s single carrier IF it’s working that day.

Culturally, the French have always leaned toward effete snobbery exactly the way moss doesn’t lean toward the sun. They think they invented the Renaissance. French culture is so conceited even high school kids who take French think they’re better than everybody else. Like they have anything to show for themselves in the last 30 years?
When was the last time you heard of a new French author worth reading?

French culture is declining faster than the credit card machine at Aldi’s. Any language with a nasal “n” phoneme is destined for the scrap heap of history. If it weren’t for their contributions to cheese-making, I’d have no use for the French at all.

The French didn’t even invent French toast. French FRIES are Belgian. French cuisine in general is based on one concept, if you smother everything in butter it won’t totally suck. I am a big butter fan, but let’s face it, you could dip an old shoe in butter and make it taste better than before. That doesn’t make you Julia Child. And you can keep your dark chocolate, too, make mine milky, s’il vous plais.

Ninety percent of the great French philosophers were mental Onanists who gave us nothing more important than “existentialism” or “the philosophy of self-pity” that put man at the center of the universe while making it seem absolutely pointless to BE alive. “I think, therefore I am?” Think this, Slappy! I’ve known plenty of people who existed without thinking. Monsieur Descartes (or should I call you René?) Father of modern philosophy? Give me Lao Tzu any day, baby.

And that’s another thing, how much respect can we have for a country where men have names like René, Michel and Dominique?

Just about everybody dislikes the French. I’m at least 25 percent French and I can’t even stand myself. Frankly, if there were some kind of Michael Jackson-style French-reducing operation, I’d go for it. Fortunately for me, French chromosomes don’t really stick to anything. Like Frenchmen, French genes give up easily unless they are trying to give America the finger.

Every French man and woman I’ve ever met personally tried to start a fight with me over some fine point of American policy I did not personally advocate, perpetuate or endorse. So it doesn’t really surprise me that they plan to block us at every move with Iraq. That is the most unfortunate thing of all because in the end, France could have done more to prevent this war by being on our side and helping to apply pressure than by opposing us.

La colomne est finie!

comments (279)

I wish I knew more about the French. I don't. China, Russia, have veto power, that makes sense, but France? Ani lo miveen? Would they be opposed if they weren't leaning on the GIANTs of China and/or Russia? Well, I can't contribute more to the discussion, I know some French Jews though...

by LOCKHEED at February 14, 2003 5:56 PM

FuckFrance.com has a complete history of the French military. Suffice it to say you'd rather have Maria Carey with you in a foxhole. At least she can sing and is fun to bang.

by Anna at February 15, 2003 10:32 AM

I'd rather have a French woman in my foxhole than Mariah Carey any day. After you'd fucked five ways from Friday, you could smoke a ciggy and have an intelligent conversation.

Mariah Carey would just lie with her legs spread and moan because the ceiling wasn't painted pink, rather than with carnal lust. Yeah, she sure looks cute, but she's as much use to me as a pair of tits on a camel.

I like the French culture. Well, at least they have a culture! Most Americans think culture is something to do with yoghurt.

Jonnie (UK)

by Jonnie Darko at February 15, 2003 5:00 PM

Next up, fuck the English. Nah, I kid. I wouldnt waste my time on those pasty faced cocks. "At least the French have culture.." take an anthropology class sometime dildo, learn to make a distinction between culture and high culture. Every group of humans has a culture, you want to insult us, try to do something a little original besides attacking us for the same vaccuousness every other country exhibits as part of their pop culture.

by eff at February 17, 2003 10:59 AM

Jonnie, you attack Mariah Carey like anyone in the U.S. repects her. Personally, I'd rather be in just about any woman's foxhole beside Carey's.

by mg at February 17, 2003 11:48 AM

LMAO at EFF :)

I just love pseudo intellectuals. You guy's really make me laugh!

by Jonnie Dildo at February 17, 2003 12:34 PM

That's good. But I don't like that word "yoghurt." Somehow it never looks right, even if you spell it "yogurt".

by Anna at February 17, 2003 4:24 PM

I find culture to be synonymous with tradition – focused on the past and slowing down progress. It’s a way to divide people into groups. I like black people. I just don’t like black culture. Does that make me racist? Maybe I’m just jealous because I’m an American, blue-collar, white guy with no culture of my own.

by MrBlank at February 17, 2003 5:11 PM

I love people who try to bait me with emoticons as if LOL or LMAO or UNICEF or ASPCE is supposed to get my goat especially in the abscence of ANY kind of rational response. I can tell right now this fuck isn't English. i've spent more than enough time in the presense of the English to know one wouldnt fold instantly and try and rest on taunts, that is an entirely American mental weakness gained from too many years of talk shows, video games and public school education.

'ow 'bout some bobble 'n' squeak for dinne govenuh, eh whot!? asshole poser.

As for real business, I am not in favor of this war with iraq either, but hate the French I must. Ironic as it seems, I cannot bring myself to agree with them. i don't trust their motives any more than Georgie Porgie's. At least with the German's I get a sense of genuine concern even if it is only to keep things kosher for the current presidential campaign. Anybody know when that is over by the way?

by eff at February 18, 2003 11:04 AM

I think the German Presidential campaign is over. The anti-american stuff got the guy elected and now he seems to be sticking to his campaign positions now that he's in office.

Very anti-american if he can do that. (anti-canadian too, none of our politicians can stick to a position or promise longer than a week tops)

by ChuckWoolery at February 18, 2003 11:09 PM

Though I couldn't find anything on it, I seem to recall the recent (September) German elections to have been a very tight race. When all was said and done, there was a bit of a Gore/Bush '02 Florida, vote count thing going on. I think. At any rate, I was able to find this bit, a pre-election run down of the candidates and issues of the election, which was very informative. if anyone is in to being informed.

by mg at February 19, 2003 12:25 AM

Eff, you're a funny guy! Not "haha" funny. Just plain old funny.

How can you judge one persons nationality from a few lines of text? Your judgements are unsound. As is your ego in relation to any talent you may actually have.

We haven't all got Cockney accents. Nor eat leftovers for dinner. That shows you know zero.

All you know, as you say, is from "gained from too many years of talk shows, video games and public school education" only. Which is shite. If you can't say something with substance, keep quiet little man.

Take a look_see at Bolwing for Columbine. It's a magnificent piece of film, exposing the hipocrasy and limited capacity of your generalised red_neck ceptic. You're probably in it! Shouting about how everyone has a right to bear arms, but no idea why the USA has 11,000 gun related deaths each year, in relation to a few hundred in the UK.

Wake up, there are actually other people outside the shores of the US.

by Jonnie Dark-Dildo at February 19, 2003 8:45 AM

Oh, wow, a broad, generalized statement about a particular culture answered by another broad, generalized statement about another culture. This is so exciting. It makes me want to go out back and shoot my guns. Ye-Haw!

by MrBlank at February 19, 2003 9:20 AM

Pop pop!

Bang bang!


Pass the fookin' salt mister, me farkin pies gawn all sawgy on me innit, guv'nor.

Pie 'n mash missus?

Larvley jarbley.

Watchit you farkin caaant. You keep ya mince pies off me gyal. Or else I'll be switchin' you orf like a farkin light bulb geezar!

Yeah? Well you know these ceptic tank caants innit. They ain't got a farkin brain between the dossers innit.

by Jonnie Darko at February 19, 2003 1:42 PM

Why don't come over here and say that you limey bastard. "clack" "clack" "chambers round to deal out the 11,001st gun related death." God Shave the Queen!!

by Ugly American at February 19, 2003 3:45 PM

The comments are beginning to look like something from one of the Osama bin Laden Naked posts. The end.

Actually, not the end.

Lets bring this back up to some level of intelligent discourse. Americans have an almost universal antipathy towards the French. After 9/11 people suggested that the hatred people in the world feel toward the U.S. is based on valid reasons, even if their expression of that anger is irrational (and, seriously, what could be more irrational than suicide attacks?). Isn't it only fair then to assume that American's hatred of everything French is rooted in something a little deeper too?

Could it be because they rolled over for the Nazis? Or that they ignore U.N. sanctions against Iraq? Or could it be because, despite the fact they've got no financial or military power, they expect the rest of the world to accept them as a political power? I don't know, any of those (and more) seem like perfectly valid reasons.

With all the reasons to hate the French, I'd expect the French to be grateful that Americans are only making fun of their personal hygiene and fascination with Jerry Lewis, rather than flying airplanes into the Eiffel Tower.

by mg at February 19, 2003 4:08 PM

Chirac is making an ass of himself across Europe now with his mocking comments toward the EU applicant states who have sided with the EU states that have sided with the Unites States. The govts of Europe are overwhelmingly on the side of Bush, but as far as I can see, it's the same over there as it is here when it comes to the public. A great many americans who are willing to be vocal are against the war. You get more vocal anti-war protestors than vocal war supporters. Why would anyone go out and protest FOR a war when it's coming any way?

The problem with America is we always take these polls and ask what Americans think regardless of whether or not they fuckin' vote. I don't care what some douchebag thinks if he doesnt vote.

Like we were talking about before, the middle ground. The middle ground is that in order to be able to maintain peace, you have to be ready willing and able to kick ass. no one is going to leave you alone or respect you if can't. Of course diplomacy is best but there are people in this world who will not conform unless they have a gun to their head.

Often enough, it is sufficient to beat your chest to get what you want after diplomacy has crashed and before the shooting starts. I hope that will be the case here. it is not entirely unlikely that this whole thing is a charade (sha-ROD). The first one was. Saddam was our boy wasn't he? He did a great many of the terrible things he's done while we looked the other way. Suddenly it is imperative for us to stop him? I don't question that he is an asshole, but i question our suddenly urgent need to do something. I question why it is so hard for so many of our contrymen to find that as supsicious as I do. I cannot take the bush adminiustration at face value. It has NOTHING to do with that fucked up election. It has everything to do with this being a wag the dog situation.

by eff at February 19, 2003 4:13 PM

I'm an American. I'm well educated, took French for two years in high school, including a trip there. Then took another year in college and finished up with another trip to France while in college. I know French culture as well as I probably could without living there and trying to assimilate myself as an expatriate.

The French people are just like people everywhere else. They're proud of their culture and identity. They have contributed quite a bit to western civilization historically, regardless of what they do now, which isn't nothing. French science is still some of the best in the world. They don't like it when tourists come there and act like they own the fuckin' place. If you go there and try to speak their language and fit in, they are usually helpful and pleasant.

As for their politics, I don't agree with everything they believe, but I don't take sides with anyone all the time. It's an issue by issue thing. That's the way I view politics here, and internationally. They have a right to disagree, whether we like it or not, just like Americans have the right to protest, like it or not.

I am FOR the war. Personally, I don't give a shit if he has the weapons or not. He's a piece of shit who doesn't deserve to run a country. The Iraqi citizens will be happy when he's gone. They and the world will be a better, safer place, without him.

Has he been our puppet in the past? Yes indeed. Alliances change. When we supported him, Iran was our main concern. Probably he would still be tolerable if he hadn't invaded Kuwait. He's done much to show that he isn't a stable person, nor is he interested in fitting into the larger world community. That community is dominated by western principles, thinking, money, what have you. Is that right or wrong? Who fucking cares. It's the way it is.

America is not evil. Our goals and ambitions are not always honerable. Yes, there are hidden agendas. Yes, there are moral issues that are disregarded at the expense of people. Yes, the third world has been socially and economically exploited for a long time.

The thing you must be aware of is this. Our government does things sometimes that even the people here don't like. So it isn't fair to lump us all into one big boat and say that we're a bunch of pop-culture mall-rats with no concept of what's going on ouside of our borders. That simply isn't true.

What you also have to remember is that, even if our motives are sometimes questionable, we aren't the great satan that a lot of people would like to portray us as. We do a lot of good in the world as well, things that we have absolutely no obligation to do, nor anything to gain from, other than favorable P.R..

After 9/11, we could have turned Afghanistan into a fucking parking lot, but we didn't. We're still there, helping, and it will be a better place eventually, because of that intervention. Iraq is no different. We'll try to do it in such a way as to preserve civilian lives, to the greatest extent possible. We won't carpet-bomb their cities, or their mosques. When we're finished, we'll help to reestablish some order that the people there can then use as a framework to rebuild their society into some semblance of a place where reasonable people would actually like to live.

Will that government be US-friendly? Hell yes. Think of it this way. You don't have to like, love, or agree with all of US policy. And I'm certainly not suggesting that we are beyond reproach or question. Hell, that's what our constitution is based on. The bottom line though, is this... There could be a lot worse countries you could think of to be the most powerful in the world. Having the USA as the premier super-power is not so bad.

You may not like everything about our culture either, but it's not so bad living here. It's fun, and you can actually make something out of yourself if you have any talent and/or ambition. If that were true everywhere, I seriously doubt that we would be going anywhere to bomb anyone. We don't like to fight, but it is necessary sometimes, and we will do it.

This is, in my humble opinion, one of those times where it's justified. Whether he has the weapons or not, who here doubts that he would if he could, and that he would use them? Hell, he gases and tortures his own citizens! Does he aid terrorists? Where's the proof? I don't need any personally. I know he hates the US and all Americans. I have no trouble believing that he would aid anyone that he thought was his ally in that hatred.

His time is at an end, and he is going down. 'Nuff said.

As for the people who disagree with that, fine. Disagree. We've been there for other countries in the past when they needed us, and we would be again. We don't need their permission. I know that's arrogant, but it's a fact. Get used to it.

by Blacklash at February 19, 2003 8:14 PM



by Kegel at February 19, 2003 9:09 PM

The French have cut off their nose to spite their face. Saddam had laughed at the U.N. until the Members passed 1441. Resolution 1441 appeared to have some teeth, and for the first time in 4 years, Saddam let the inspectors in. And for the first time in 12 years he did not openly deny access to suspected facilities. I don't think for a minute that he would actually let them get close to his stash, but I'll save that arguement for another day. With the act that the French Foreign Minister pulled at the U.N. last week, Saddam will know that he has some "wiggle room" and push his bounderies. This will cause a war.

by Usama bin Laden at February 19, 2003 11:40 PM

Exactly, if the "civilized" nations of the world could show a united front, that fucker hussein would have no choice but to give up sooner rather than later. Fuck it, no French are gonna die either way, who the fuck wants them fighting with us? All they had to do was act like an ally.

Do the French have the right to disagree. Sure they do, but this isnt about the right to have an opinion, this is about the responsibility of allies tosupport one another. NATO only just now agreed to back Turkey. That should never have been in question.

The real problem here is that the world is changing and chirac wants france to have as big a piece of the pie as possible. This is about leverage. The french have always been opportunistic weasles so I refuse to see this as a moral stand on their part.

the germans though. i have no clue what their deal is except they have the highest standard of living in europe. All politics are local, maybe there is something there I'm missing.

by eff at February 20, 2003 10:22 AM

This is what's going on in Germany: Their economy sucks, and like in 1938, when it was much easier to turn to Jews into soap then deal with that, the government (Schroeder) is using the general hostility against the U.S. to gain favor with voters, instead of trying to fix any problems. Sort of the same thing people accuse the U.S. of doing now, but in Germany it's actually working, since people there hate Americans more than people here hate Iraqiis. I guess the Germans just have more capacity for blind, illogical hatred than American do.

by mg at February 20, 2003 12:09 PM

No French are gonna die? Are you for real? That's exactly what the UN is all about!!!! If the UN go in in an armed situation, every nation in the UN is expected to get their feet wet in one way or another, which if course means sending men into a live firing environment. Therefore, yes, French men will sacrifice their lives as will you ceptics. You seem to have the head in the sand syndrome. What you don't see on the TV, ain't fo'real!

"chirac wants france to have as big a piece of the pie as possible" .... that's horse shit. He's just being as obtuse as is possible. It's in the genes of the French. You probably think you're clever putting a tiltle to this post as "fuck the french!" ... tres verve!! But they've be saying "Fuck everyone!" for eternity. They laugh loudest, at you, because the fact that you, as an overweight ceptic, shows you've been greedy by eating all the pies, not them.

Anyhow, it's president Bush who want's it all his own way. Like a petulant child who can't have his own way by going in on Iraq when he wants to. Yeah, I think it's great that some Euro countries have opposed, just by way that Bush doesn't let his ego get the better of him just because he's got more, bigger guns than everyone else. Who cares?

Let's face it, it's all about power and oil anyhow. There's plenty of other dictators out there who everyone knows has nukes. Look at India and Pakistan ... they've been threataning to nuke each other for ages. But no one gives a fuck. Why? Because they don't have any oil, and Bush ain't shittin it because he knows they aren't gonna knock up the price on a barrel of oil so you yanks can drive around polluting everything in your SUV's and four liter engines etc.

What about President Mugabe? He's been killing his own for ages aswell. It's been well documented. He's as much of a nasty basdard as Saddam. But Bush doesn't give a fuck about that bizniz either ... why? Because they don't have any oil.

So what gives America the right to say who does what and where? Nothing. You've already fucked up many situations by sticking your nose in unwanted business.

Never forget that it was America who sponsored Osama Bin Laden about $4-billion to train his men to kick up a fuss in the arab world. They spend it on arms and eventually send in two jumbo's to kill the people wo gave them the money. And nobody saw it coming.

That's just the tip of the iceberg.

Saddam was helped by the USA to kick out the Iranian dictator in the 80's. The money they gave him, he invested in arms research which you are trying to stop now. Nice move America.

Work it out people ...

by Jonnie Darko at February 20, 2003 1:17 PM

That is a very interesting point MG, I appreciate your feedback. I've had buddies in the army stationed in germany who thought it was awesome. That usually goes hand in hand with not hating americans, but maybe they honestly didn't notice it. South Koreans have the same hangups but their govt is pretty adamant about keeping us around because they KNOW that million man arming is going to crush their nuts the first chance they get.

Frankly, I'd like to figure a way out of all this shit without kicking everybody's ass, but at this point, If the only people we piss off are the French, Germans and Belgians, who gives a shit?

by eff at February 20, 2003 6:19 PM

Ya it's about oil, but you ain't lookin at it the way you should. First sadman insane is paying patist ahabs to blow up the jews. The jews are pissed. They have the right to be, or do they. get out of the west bank and it stops. Why do the ahabs hate the jews. cause the jews took the oppertunity to better themselves. want-a-bees always hate those who have it. The germans don't give a dam about the jews so they want out. fuck the french they want everything and nobody's givining them anything. their pissed cause nobody pays any attention to france.
So the jews can take care of themselves. they go to bush, say we're going to kill that bastard, and the US gov has a shit fit. if thejews do and they can, all the ahabs will turn on them, full force. we get WW3 in the sand.
so bush say's we better do it for you. why? because we love the jews. fuck no. do a big one in the sand and all the oil stops. not only here, and i admit we use the most of it. so why not. we worked for it. don't believe me. come on over and see if the streets are paved with gold. oil stops all over the world. stop and think just what you would do without it.
what about that ass hole in north K. god damm it. sadman insane is his only cash customer.
this prick has got to go, but not in a full scale war. put $50 mil on his head. see how long he lasts.

OH OH can't do that. then he could do it on busch. HO HO let the leaders get in the ring instead of the commen folk.

this whole thing looks like a blivey. thats trying to put 6 pounds of shit in 5 pound bag.

by joe jamoke at February 20, 2003 9:26 PM

I have some news for the french. I hate france the only reason I have not said anything is because you french peanut turds keep buying my movies.

by Jerry Lewis at February 20, 2003 10:25 PM


by LOCKHEED at February 20, 2003 11:07 PM

4 litre engines? Shit, that's small!

by Usama bin Laden at February 20, 2003 11:35 PM

We get our oil from the rig's we have in the North Sea etc ....

by Jonnie Darko at February 21, 2003 7:53 AM


I agree 4 liters is small, i personaly have a 7.4 liter. But anyway even if this is about oil so what. You dont have to transport your produce 1000 miles to get to the store in your cracker jack box of a country. Oil is the new gold of a industrlized world. Europe should understand this very well since they slaughted and fucked just about every civilized people in the world for gold which feed your Kings and Queens and funded your wars.(thank god for the american revolution) I guess my point is, enough with the oil arguement. If no oil then no economy and yes europe would be effected also. And who gives a shit if we pump oil out of Iraq after the war, the french are pumping now and will be pumping oil even after the war is over. Its not like were going to go and take the oil be force. The people of Iraq will get paid a fair market price for there oil just like everybody else. And this will make them a rich contry in the process, look at Saudi Arabia and Kuwaitt they have more money then they know what to do with. So yes pump the oil, I personlly would not like the see the western countrys grind to a halt.

Oh yea I almost forgot bang bang bang yeeeee hawwwwww, god bless TEXAS!!!!

by Mudkat at February 21, 2003 1:22 PM

This a comment I got from one of my regular column readers. I did a version of Fuck the French there as well only it was called "Who needs the French anyway?" I don't know if this is one of those widely circulated Internet amusements or not, but I enjoyed it and thought it would play nicely (or not so nicely) here. ENJOY!

Read your column faithfully. Most of the time I agree with you. Your column on WACKO JACKO and The French were classic. I was sent the following and thought you might enjoy it. Keep up the good work

You have to read this to the end........

Letter from Bosnia

An actual letter from home from a marine with the multinational force in

Dear Dad,

A funny thing happened to me yesterday at Camp Bondsteel (Bosnia):

A French army officer walked up to me in the PX, and told me he thought

we (Americans) were a bunch of cowboys and were going to provoke a war

in Iraq. He said if such a thing happens, we wouldn't be able to count

on the support of France.

I told him that it didn't surprise me. Since we had come to France's

rescue in World War I, World War II, Vietnam, and the Cold War, their

ingratitude and jealousy was due to surface [again] at some point in the

near future anyway. I also told him that is why France is a third-rate

military power with a socialist economy and a bunch of pansies for


I additionally told him that America, being a nation of deeds and

action, not words, would do whatever it had to do, and France's support,

if it ever came, was only for show anyway.

Just like in ALL NATO exercises, the US would shoulder 85% of the

burden, and provide 85% of the support, as evidenced by the fact that

this French officer was shopping in the American PX, and not the other

way around.

He began to get belligerent at that point, and I told him if he would

like to, I would meet him outside in front of the Burger King and whip

his ass in front of the entire Multi-National Brigade East, thus

demonstrating that even the smallest American had more fight in him than

the average Frenchman.

He called me a barbarian cowboy and walked away in a huff.

With friends like these, who needs enemies?

Dad, tell Mom I love her,

Your loving daughter,

Mary Beth Johnson

LtCol., USMC

by eff at February 21, 2003 1:38 PM

That letter is the epitomy of the typical ceptic. The only way he can dissolve an argument of to get brutal with violence by askin' the Frenchman outside for a fight. Nice one Eff, for backin up my theory of the red-neck mentality at play here. You excel once again at talking shite with zero evidence to back up your prejudicial opinions.

BTW, the Americans didn't bail out the French in Vietnam. Where did you get that idea from? Dien Bien Phu happened in 1954 you nonce! Erm .. The US didn't stick their oar in till about 1963, then 1965 they sent in the troops properly. And I'd like to take this opportunity to remind you all that those pesky little dinks kicked the US out of their country. A virtually third world country kicked the ass out of one of the superpower's of the world. Work it out. Intelligence is more powerful than sheer brute force.

And who said the French were pussies? I'd like to see any of you guys survive the basic training in the French Foriegn Legion. Yeah, none of you would last an hour. Especially you Eff, you'd be like Private Pile you porky ceptic (post Grunge beard 'n all!) ;)

As for WWII, what a crock of shite. The US didn't give a fuck about Europe in the war until Perl Harbour happened 'cause you'd pissed the Jap's off. Don't you remember these thing’s. We were fightin the Nazi's for four years before you lot came in. Hundreds of thousands of English died (gawd knows how many Jews and Russians and other Europeans!) and you lot were too busy watching TV commercials advertising the fact that nuclear products were good for you. Yeah, brush your teeth with radioactive colgate for kicks.

Mudkat. I cannot believe that a 7.4 litre engine is available!! What a sheer waste of resources that is! You don't need 7.4 litres of engine to travel across flat land at 60 mph. That shows how greedy y'all are innit. Doin' seven miles to the gallon whilst we do fifty miles to the gallon. No wonder you're fightin over the oil. And don't forget that the UK transport a majority of their goods in from overseas. So being a small country has nothing to do with just transportin' goods a few hours away. Don't be so superficial.

Most of the comments here just go to show how insular US citizens are. Only knowing what's going on in the little world you create for yourselves. It's a shame. You think that because you have guns then everyone should be doing exactly as you say.

You've (America) been bitchin about the twin towers for ages. Yeah, I have as much sympathy for the victims as you're average American. But we've been bombed and sniped by the Irish and others for decades. Terrorism's been a daily phenomenon for the English for over three decades. Yet we didn't go on a rampage. Stating that anyone who didn't salute the Union Jack as a terrorist. But that’s what happened after 9/11.

So Iraq, as well as being for oil, is just Americas way of flexing their muscles yet again. After they went into kick the Taliban out, they got the power kick again and it just so happened that Saddam was next on Bush’s wishlist.

Nothing more than a show of power.

by Jonnie Darko at February 21, 2003 2:44 PM

And the ships that bring you your goods what do they run on? coal! Don't be so narrow minded.
Second, you brits got kicked out of every commonwelth you ever had.

Third, Your army would be getting shot at if you didn't try to force your will on the people of Ireland.

As for flexing muscles, I think there will be plenty of your own boys flexing theres right beside the americans.

And for your information my 7.4 liters gets about 16mpg

P.S. This is not an attack on all English just one narrow minded

by Mudkat at February 21, 2003 3:14 PM

Oh yea I almost forgot again

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by Mudkat at February 21, 2003 3:20 PM

Yeah, the ships run on diesel. I was making a point referring to your statement that our goods only travel on our oh_so_small piece of land, known as England. My point is that we aren't constricted to our own shores in terms of logistics, therefore oil is also a concern to us.

Secondly: Yeah, we shoud get kicked out of every commonwealth we had. Because it's not our land to take. Just like Iraq ain't your land. Mate. Plus you may notice that we took our commonwealth years ago. Not our finest hour, whilst we raped and pillaged out ideals on the world. But thankfully, we seem to have evolved, and stopped our arrogant behaviour in the last century. Where the US seem to have taken over on our quest of thinking their the beezneez ;)

Thirdly: If you ain't been upto speed of late. We don't force out will on Ireland any more. We shouldn't be there. I agree with the next Irish man. I've spent much time discussing this over pints in pub's with men of both Southern and Nothern Irish descent, in both Belfast and the cities in the southern counties. But it's soo complicated now, that we can't just back out without either the Provo's or the Unionists getting upset. BTW, you'll find that most unionists are of Scottish decent, rather than English.

As for our boys flexing their muscles. You may have realised that I'm not for that. We should stay out of this shit, and that's for sure.

It's nice to know that you get a whole sixteen mpg out of your brutal machine. Whilst I get triple that in my car, thus using only a third of the worlds rescources that you do getting to where I want to go. What's your point?

by Jonnie Darko at February 21, 2003 3:52 PM

Jonnie, you seem to ignore everything I've had to say so far. I guess it most be easier picking on Eff's weight than entering into an intelligent debate and actually proving the evidence you chide him for not knowing.

First off, you are just wrong about Viet Nam. The U.S. began their involvement in 1950, sure it was limited, but they were there, and they were there in support of France.

Secondly, the reason the U.S. didn't succesfully complete its mission in Viet Nam is because the U.S. had no mission in Viet Nam. It is absolutely ridiculous to assume that if the U.S. had committed fully to the war that things would have turned out how they did. Only a few years earlier the U.S. had decimated Japan, which had managed to conquer nearly the entire South Pacific, including China, and were on their way to Russia. If given the green light, you don't think that same U.S. army could take on tiny little Viet Nam, even with the support of Cambodia, Laos, and China?

You are also wrong about WWII. France and Britian ignored Hitler for years, letting Czechoslovakia fall without doing a thing about it. If they hadn't explicitly promised to defend Poland if Germany invaded, they wouldn't have entered the war until the Germany army were at their borders. How many Jews, Russians, Dutch, Belgians, Norwegian, and Poles died before France and England entered the war? Not to mention all the countries in North Africa Italy was sticking their noses into.

People in the U.S. also protesed going to war against Germany. How come we should listen to the protestors who say stay out of Iraq today, but back in 1940 Roosevelt was supposed to ignore a much larger public opinion?

Sure, the U.S. had no active involvement in the war prior to Pearl Harbor, but Roosevelt did all he could in order to continue providing arms and aid to Britian, even though it had been illegal up to that point for the U.S. to provide such aid to participants in war we were "neutral" in. And when England ran out of money, the U.S. loaned them billions of dollars so they could not only defend themselves, but keep their entire government from crumbling.

After Pearl Harbor, the U.S. could have decided to defend it's own interests and only fight Japan. Yet, Victory in Europe came several months before Victory in Japan because the U.S. made it a priority to defend it's allies in Europe before dispatching it enemies in the Pacific.

As for Ireland, you selfish imperialistic Brits have occupied their homeland for centuries. All those people ever wanted was freedom and self determination. Now, I was under the impression that a fair amount of the violence and terrorism in Northern Ireland was caused by Protestant loyalists, which would, in a sense, mean that everytime a member of the IRA refused to salute the Union Jack, someone did go on a rampage.

by mg at February 21, 2003 3:52 PM

How can you possibly expect me to have compassion for a man that publishes a post entitled "fuck the french!"?

Anyone who is prepared to make a global statement like that towards an entire nation should be prepared to take some shit in return. If he can't then maybe he should think before publishing such provoking material.

I'm more than happy to have an intelligent arument about all this. It's a good outlet. But in Eff's initial response to my comment, he called me a "Dildo". That's a real good start to intelligent discussion, is it? Not that I give a monkeys you should know ;)

Thanks for your input.

by Jonnie Darko at February 21, 2003 4:07 PM

Yeah and that first post was SO sophisticated...

I couldnt give a shit less what this wanker calls me frankly. Feel free to call me a fat ass, I'm sure in your mind that is devastatingly witty. You must be the smartest kid in your grade school.

I said "Fuck the French" and I'll say it again. FUCK...THE... FRENCH. Fuck the whole country. They are not relevant. With or without their support, nothing changes.

Fuck Europe for that matter. Fuck the euro, fuck the ruins, fuck the dry humor, fuck the chain-smoking, cafe-dwelling pub crawlers for all I care.

For several centuries the great countries of Europe ran roughshod over the world. They have some audacity now to equate U.S. foreign and economic policy with their unbridled greed. Keeping an economy stable is a far cry from searching for the lost city of gold.

I imagine that we don't actually disagree on many points concerning Iraq. I am not in favor of a shooting war with Iraq. I've said it many times, right here. I've said it in my newspaper column repeatedly. I believe the United States should do more to seek peaceful resolutions to the worlds problems. I do not think, however, that we are somehow obligated to tuck our tails between our legs because our smaller and weaker European cousins look down their noses at us. Your countries are much older than ours but do not confuse age with wisdom just as I do not confuse might with right.

Most of what I hear from Europeans about "how americans are" is crap based on stereotypes gleened from American TV shows. They have this idea that Amerians all live fast and drive huge cars that get shitty gas mileage. Fuck that, i drive a Hyundai. The cowboy stereotype is just about the most laughable one Europeans are constantly looking for because it the easiest thing to find in films of the past. Here's tip: Those movies WERE FANTASIES. You guys have men in armor with swords rescuing princesses, we have cowboys saving towns.

Anyway, most americans use the term cowboy as an insult as well and a guy in a cowboy hat gets stared out over here. Kids don't play cowboys and indians here any more. The great popularity of Westerns no doubt gave you the impression that we just live for cowboy ideals. Again, that's just crap. Almost all of the american films that become popular in Europe are tripe where tough guys blow shit up. Well, that's you problem not ours. For my money I'll go see "My Big Fat Greek Wedding" or "Memento."
Bay Watch was much more popular in europe than it was in America. Seems vaccuous crap with blondes with huge fake tits sells in Europe even better than it does here, but don't assume that because you guys can't get enough of our crap that we buy it all ourselves. I never watched one episode of that shit.

Another issue here is the kind of insane ranting Internet anonymity encourages. There is a zone most of us are in. I am not terribly anonymous here. I dont really give a shit. As a professional columnist I don't have much privacy anyway so the fact that people here can see my fat half breed indian face is of no consequence and if someone hiding behind the safety of a fake name wants to take some potshots, by all means do so. I don't take it personally nor does it wreck my weekend.

I will continue to say what I want, when I want whether you dig it or not gobshite 'cause end o' the day, you ain't in my league bitch. I'm working on more levels than you can count. And now, stories about strippers!

by eff at February 21, 2003 5:15 PM

When's "My Big Fat Ceptic Wedding" coming out then? That's sure to be a (s)hit!

Who said people are using pseudonyms here? This is my real name. It's just, well ... my parents hate me!

Fuck this malarkey, I'm off to throw some salty potato water over Baywatch. Bitch ( -.-)

Call the fire brigade ......

by Jonnie Darko at February 21, 2003 5:31 PM

Sure it's your real name. That's why I rented your movie a couple of months ago. Not bad, but certainly not worthy of using it as my online personna.

by Blacklash at March 2, 2003 10:42 AM

I guess you?re trying to be funny, so perhaps I shouldn?t take this so seriously. But even if it is trying to be funny? it?s a very old and tired thing to say you hate the French. It?s an American cliché ? usually proliferated by A.) people who?ve never been to France and B.) people who met a couple of snobby French people in the States. Humph. If you were to judge all Americans by the class of annoyingly loud, gum popping idiots that tour through Europe ? there would be far more arguments about why Americans suck. America is so isolated and arrogant in the world they create ridiculous caricatures. Guess what ? France has snobs YES, but also working class people AND minorities. They have their versions of liberals AND rednecks. Unfortunately The average American views the rest of the world abstractly and simplistically ? as if the only REAL place were the United States. As if all the ancient cultures of the world are deviants of US.

And HOW would you know about any good French art of the last 30 years if you?re so socially arrogant that you don?t learn to read French or BOTHER with subtitles in movies or read foreign magazines? The French, for one, heralded American Jazz, blues and comics and much great American art WAY before the American cultural elite took notice. Why? Because THEY pay attention. We need to pay attention too.

What I DO like about France, and other European countries is that they actually LISTEN to the will of their people ? their news broadcast and papers ACTUALLY report on protests. Thank GOD for the internet, or I wouldn?t get any real news AT ALL. The French government also CARES about the health of their people. I?m from the south, and one of the FATEST U.S cities, New Orleans. Everyone in my family either has cancer and/or diabetes, is overweight AND an alcoholic. As an adult I slowly became aware of the poison that poor Americans are forced to eat because they can?t AFFORD good food ? they don?t even KNOW what good food IS. It was a revelation to shop in a European grocery store. What we call health food, and buy in health food stores ? they call regular food and sell in regular stores. In France, my mother who has Cancer ? wouldn?t have to fake pain just to be examined by a doctor. Whatever, I LOVE my country ? but that doesn?t mean other countries might not have some better ideas about the way things should be done.

Further, Just because a big tough guy comes in and saves the small little smart guy from a big nasty bully doesn?t mean the SMART little guy should do what the hero tells him

by Ralph at March 3, 2003 4:55 AM

Oh my god...Stupidity is spreading...

I can imagine the author sitting in front of his TV eating chips, while watching CNN.
Probably he even thinks it'll make him intelligent someday.

I don't really like Chirac but I'm proud of his "no" to the war.
Just as I am proud of our chancellor Schroeder...

I could imagine the author loading his shotgun to defeat the french army...I hope he tries someday just to get his dick shot off.
But I'd fell safe too if I had the biggest, best equipped army in the world to back my poor ass up.
I'd rely on my nuclear weapons to blast those evil french-toasts away if my shotgun is empty...go ahaed pal!
Eerrr...weren't we against weapons of mass destruction in Iraq?
Don't we have them at home, too?!?

By the way: The french owe you Nothing. Zip. Nada.
Without the europeans your fat ass wouldn't even exist.
Besides they're your ancestors you'd still live in a british colony without them (or maybe you wouldn't even live...).
How bad would it be if there were no declaration of independence at all...just because the french were too lazy and stayed at home.

You americans are in the french's debt FOREVER!!!

I'm wasting my time.

Luckily all americans I know personally think before they speak so there's a content in their phrases.

I can't wait to hear the responses like "Lol you germans are so funny" or "We don't talk to people from old europe" or even "Fuck the Germans instead of the french".
The best proof of your high level of intelligence would be to call me a nazi because I'm from Germany...

Best wishes from old europe!!!


by Blade2305 at August 20, 2003 11:34 AM


Looks about right.

by Ezy at August 20, 2003 12:47 PM


as good as the I feel lucky button with the query "french military victories" on google.

by chuckwoolery at August 20, 2003 2:15 PM

That is a pretty good one Chuck.

Blade, I think we've more than payed the French back for their help in gaining our independance.

by Ezy at August 20, 2003 2:53 PM

What the hell am I supposed to do now, quake in fear before the almighty teutonic logical dead end you've laid before me. First off my little monkey man, i don't owe Europeans a GOD DAMN thing. I'm Indian and French by descent and if weren't for Europeans, I'd be living in a wondrous land of savage beauty, great freedom and spiritual satisfaction instead of talking to some dildo across the ocean who takes the time to respond to a BLOG post that is over six months old. My passion is somewhat faded, so forgive me if I don't have the inclination or anger necessary to make your little prophecy come true by calling you "a nazi" there Nostradumbass. How's that for clever, bitch?

One observation of my own though, because it never ceases to amaze me how many squids there are out there sliming all over the Internet who find time to get up in arms about bullshit like this and they always, ALWAYS end with the usual predictions about what it is you are going to say next as though by listing 10 options, one would be unable to counter them.

I think Old Europe pays more attention to CNN and stereotypes than a great many Americans. The Americans you know, pal, are young enough or rich enough to travel to Germany for starters. The crap you see on TV is just the typical press conference BULLSHIT our president wants you to see. I was opposed to the war. My position was quite clear. Had countries like France and Germany who had clear economic interests in Saddam's regime stood BY US instead of opposed to to us, we might have been able to avoid the war altogether.

BUT, because you guys are a bunch of greedy, lazy, pussies, you din't want to get involved until AFTER Dubya did his dirty work. At which point, Chirac and Schroeder came around to lick our balls and make nice so they could get in on the post war looting. So much for high morals, eh? not only are they cowards, they are greedy and immoral ones to boot.

You aren't the kings of peace, Herr Schlongkopf, you are knee jerk reactionaries who do the opposite of the US just to show your disdain for us without really questioning your leaders motivations. How does it feel to be a tool of the MAN?

Oh and just so I don't TOTALLY disapoint you, LOL, you commie kraut fuck, screw you, screw your bow-legged mama and the American GI who made you a bastard, screw Deutschland and especially screw that syphilitic French asshole Chirac.

Whoo-hoo, yeah, skveel like a schwein!

by eff at August 20, 2003 3:09 PM

"Oh and just so I don't TOTALLY disapoint you, LOL, you commie kraut fuck, screw you, screw your bow-legged mama and the American GI who made you a bastard, screw Deutschland and especially screw that syphilitic French asshole Chirac.

Whoo-hoo, yeah, skveel like a schwein!"

That brought a tear to my eye Eff. Poetic my young Frost.

by Ezy at August 20, 2003 3:15 PM

Why are you getting so angry?

You aren't frustrated are you?!?

Try to response with arguments and as I already said: Think before you type (if you're able to...).

by Blade2305 at August 21, 2003 12:41 AM

Oh wow, man, it's like you're reading my mind and picking me apart molecule by molecule. GET... OUT... OF... MY... HEAD!

Oh wait, it's just a mosquito. [kills mosquito]
Now whose blood flows!?

Fact: I responded with a logical argument.
Fact: You did not.
Fact: All world leaders operate on self interest and ALL politics are LOCAL politics.
Fact: Chirac, Schroeder and Putin ie France, Germany and Russia all made money from the Iraqi regime trading in arms and other sundry items like helping that crazy bastard Hussein develop nuclear tech.
Fact: I'm not arguing that the US is any better, on the contrary, I've been up front about the fact that the US was interested in looting the whole damn country. A few countries didn't support regime change in Iraq because they knew they would lose contracts while we moved in and got rich.
Fact: This is all gangster shit and your leaders played you like suckers. "They listened to the will of the people." Bullshit. They used the will of the people as camoflauge to hide their own greedy intentions.
Pure speculation: If your leaders had been more interested in peace than protecting their pockets, they could have prevented this war by backing the U.S. and letting Saddam stand alone.
Fact: By backing Saddamn, they ensured he would hold out and make war inevitable.

So go suck a sausage Fritz cause I aint heard anything from you that tops this highly rational argument.

by eff at August 21, 2003 8:59 AM

Oh right! I get you.
It wasn't the US that gave Saddam his weapons in 1980 to defeat Iran in the first gulf war...it were the europeans.
Wake up Dumbass!!!
If you don't know the history of your own goddamn country how can you dare to talk about its policy!

And which german politician has ever talked about the will of the Germans?
It is said in our constitution that the politicians are only responsible for their acts in front of THEMSELF (you get it: No word about "You gotta do what the people want".

So...if we vote the wrong people they can even say "I wanna make war and want to steer the tanks by myself."

Btw: It WAS the will of most people here NOT to make war (so maybe Schroeder was lucky that he could continue his business *here your conspiracy theories take place* AND had the people on his side.

Pure speculation: If the european leaders would have backed Bush he wouldn't have attacked???


Just about a month after 9-11 Wolfowitz and his other pals talked about making war in Iraq.
Are you naive enough to believe your government wouldn't do something they planned for over two years?
Do you think they would have sent all the troops home the had already brought to Kuweit?
Damn...you're frustrating me...
You're even dumber than I expected you in my worst nightmares, Mr. Smartypants...talking aboput politician's gangster-shit and expecting George W. Bush to send all your expensively transported troops home to the US because he has proved how much he cares about a peaceful world.


Go and ride your shotgun Cowboy but do the world a favor and stop writing crap.

by Blade2305 at August 21, 2003 9:39 AM

Cowboy? wow, there is as comepletely non-stereotypical view of Americans, but it is rather telling of your own argument and this argument is all your own. You seem to be engaged in some discussion in which you've decided that my position is "that of ze typical Americanisch who is all bang-bang go get zem cowboy." when it is quite clearly NOT that conversation.

I could care less how frustrated you are after a long day of sitting around cafes smoking thin black cigaretts, listening to horrible euro trash Djs spin trancedelic house music and talking about how cool it is to be European.

Yes, I am fully aware that it was the will of most of europe to NOT go to war as I said last time.

YOU are the one who said you were proud of Chirac and Schroeder dipshit. And I'm here to tell you you're a naive schoolbody indeed if you think your country's leaders are any more clean than mine.

And yes I know we sold them weapons in the 80s, do you think that was all they ever bought from anyone in the world? Ever?

This whole thing is about money. Perhaps you should read abit of world history punk. It is ALWAYS about money.

But you are right about one thing, you are wasting your time if you think I'm rolling over to some Euro-trash pie in the sky socialist who thinks his dream of a world free of American tyrrany is somehow going to start with me.

by eff at August 21, 2003 11:26 AM

Well...I was just amazed how "serious" you reacted.
And as you said about your great arguments...they're always backgrounded by indignities, which shows your brilliant level of discussion.

Now you're offended as I get myself down to your level? That's cute!

There is only one point you were right.
I AM a schoolboy.
Isn't it sad that a "child" like me can easily argue on a level way higher than yours? Even in a foreign language?

Say what you want but you are just the perfect fulfillment of the common stereotype of the Americans.

Dumb and agressive (I'd like to add "fat" but as there are so many nice fat people I know I'll leave it out).

by Blade2305 at August 21, 2003 12:39 PM

I guess it's a good thing we can kick some major ass then huh?

Yeeeeeehawwwwwww! *As he rides off slowly, into the sunset, on his trusted steed the shotgun*

by Dumb_Aggressive at August 21, 2003 12:59 PM

This is clearly an exercise in mental masturbation since only you actually need to be here to interpret my statements into something you can feel comfortable responding to.

if you want to fling poo, go hang out in the zoo with the other monekys. if you want to counter my argument do so.

If you expect me to be impressed that you speak the language of the dominant culture, then keep on moving pal. I'm in Iowa. This state is 40 percent German (looking around my office: hoffman, brummer, eshelman, rohwer, ogren, schmitt, Brandeburg... and not one German speaker).

My city used to have several German language newspapers, german churches and breweries 80 years ago. Guess how many people here speak German today? Jack Shit. Why? It's useless. No one NEEDS to speak German any more than they NEED to speak dog in order to own one.

Of course you speak English. We rebuilt your country after WWII. English is the language of international commerce, baby Jake, that's why it's taught to you from an early age so that one day you guys might have a chance to kiss our asses if you're lucky.

You don't speak English because you're superior. If I were a Bosche, I'd lay off the superior talk any way. you wouldnt want to fall into the common German stereotype, now do you?

Go ahead and add 'fat' genius, that would make you just about the smartest boy in the third grade, sausage sucker.

by eff at August 21, 2003 1:26 PM

ok kids. hey now, cool them horses. this talk is going nowhere. i agree and i disagree with much of what was brought to light. for a peacelover & european sympathizer, i actually disagree with amost everything capt. blade said except for one thing: bush was going to attack no matter what. i couldn't be more confidant in that assumption (assumption being the mother of all fuck ups). but to me, eff is clearly right. its money. money. and money. euro leaders had the chance to look good to their people ethically, yet pull some bills from the booty. which makes that a bit more unethical than just saying, 'we want some of this, how you say....oil-pie?'. i'm all for leaders expressing their will for peace. just don't shake hands with a $50 afterwards. thanks for playing....

also, school kid...watch out for defamatory, baseless arguments about sitting high on loftier planes than your opponent. more tmes than not, you will be instantly wrong the moment you say this. almost by definition, the superior debater will not verbally quantify his or her argument. it's childish. just my experience.

by lajoie at August 21, 2003 3:33 PM

I agree that Bush was gonna do anything he could to get into a shooting war with iraq. I think Papa Bush set Iraq up in the 80s to be a fall guy in the 90s to boost ratings points whenever there was need. Why else couldnt he finish the job back in 91? Clinton used Iraq when the Monica Lewisky thing needed cooling off and Dubya pulled them out because Iraq has always been part of a larger plan to create a strong american presence inside the Arab world just to break things up a bit. The fact that there is money to be made from "rebuilding the infrastructure" we blew up, well, that's just cake. It's the cold war all over again. Like Orwell demonstrated in 1984, we create an enemy to kee the war time economy rolling, the war time mentality chugging along. then one day we can declare victory and switch enemies.

by eff at August 21, 2003 4:52 PM

Fuckfrance.com down

the racists have been kicked for a long time. is DDoS the Key? not sure but it works :)

by lafrancetencule at September 3, 2003 4:23 AM

Interesting enough, I would like the amount of interest that they owe on the loans that the U.S. backed from WWI and WWII. I think that would probably solve our Socail Security problems for sometime. My grandfather and my great uncle were in WWI, they at least died before all the insults from the France, that they saved were published.
Freedom comes at a great price, and France hasn't even paid their part yet.

by Teresa at January 26, 2004 11:47 PM

Fuck france, fuck them, and the fat fucking cocksucking fucking fuck witted american fuckers who love the fucking french. I hate americans and the french. americans love french, so fuck you cunts

by French hater at March 30, 2004 8:56 AM

"americans love french, so fuck you cunts"

Love is a pretty strong word there hater.

by Ezy at March 31, 2004 3:54 PM

I'm french and fuck your madness, I fuck your fighting cultur.
Ouvrez les yeux et regardez la merde qu'a foutu tous vos présidents depuis Truman ju'qu'à Bush, je n'ai rien contre les américains, non mais j'en veux à votre saloperie de gouvernement, à votre saloperie de culture bon marché...

by frenchy at April 6, 2004 10:07 AM

I dont speak french, but I must say, I respect them a great deal. I know a guy named pierre, and he's perhaps the most interesting person I've ever met. Too bad hes back in France.
And of course the french have culture. Unlike us proud and true Americans. We just have sex with our cousins and beat our wives.

by guiseppe verdi at May 6, 2004 8:30 PM

Speak for yourself there Guiseppe

by Ezy at May 7, 2004 3:42 PM


by GUNTHER at May 9, 2004 1:50 PM

The French should show more respect towards the USA.
Have they forgotten WWI, WWII,...

And yes, French fries aren't French but Belgian (Walloon region) !!

by TrueFacts at August 7, 2004 5:22 AM

So should Americans do towards France.
Have they forgotten their war for independence ? When they came in France in 1917, their warcry (excuse me if some words don't exist or don't fit, as you may have guessed I'm French) was "Lafayette nous voici".

Though, I do not want to write a book about WWI here, and neither do I want to show contempt towards "the fat evil Americans". I think most of you are interested in having the point of view of a French man about all this stuff.

The way the French see the Americans : that's right that a lot will say they're a people with no culture at all, that they're all fat and stupid, they want to wage war with economic reasons, and all those clichés we can hear or read here and there. Paradoxically though, more and more are losing those clichés. They understand that the situation is not so clear. I hope it's the same in the US. I even had a shower two weeks ago...

Of course, the real reasons for which Bush decided to wage war in Iraq were money and power. So were the reasons of Chirac for using his right of veto at the UN. I think human rights come far after.

France is a country of culture. And I think that Americans do not know it, or very few. It's not their fault... We have many good writers, and far more bad writers. Like in the US. But French (i could say European either) and American culture do not share their products, the move goes only one way. Here we can read most American writers, translated or not, but if you want to read a book from a French writer, not only will you have great difficulty finding it but you will have to read it in French. Whose is the fault ? I think, both. We do not have a coherent policy for exporting our cultural works, and you are not enough aware of them (I speak of majors here, not of people).

Well, these were some ideas I've thrown here with no real order. They give you all my point of view about some issues this debate has raised.

I hope no hatred will come anymore between Americans and Frenchmen. Those who hate people for the country they were born in are not even worth our wrath. Ignore them.

by François at August 22, 2004 5:26 AM

Vive la France, mort aux Américains qui nous doivent leur liberté, leurs territoires que le grand Napoléon leur a vendu...
Un jour viendra, la France détruira les USA, et ils l'auront mérité
the french army has 500 nuclears bombs

by fuck the USA at September 30, 2004 11:07 AM

Yea, they have 500 nuclear bombs but would surrender before they could use them.

by Ezy at September 30, 2004 2:14 PM


by BUSHIT at October 2, 2004 5:41 PM

You guys are funny...

I could also say pathetic, but I think I should be more polite than other frenchmen before, except, indeed, François.

You're reproaching us we're prejudiced... But I think you barely imagine that you're doing EXACTLY the same thing for us.

Most of French people use to laugh at Chirac's decisions in politics...except for your stupid wars...

And all the shitty stuff you say about our armies and yours..

"Hey guy! Look, my dick's bigger than yours! So shut up and stick to what I want, to what I say, ok?"

Pretty pathetic...

By the way, thank you for this wonderful coumn, I couldn't help lughing for minutes while reading all the crappy-stuff you wrote. ^^


by Wam, Another Frenchman at October 14, 2004 10:02 AM

Yea really, fuck the French, they want to lift ban from China. Also saying Taiwan is not a country.

Fuckin pansys, they were selling weapons to Taiwan a while ago and now they backstab us?

I do not repsect anyone who does not stand by an idea. I do not see any strong ideaology but greed behind this action.

China will soon gain its needed advanced military weapons to fuck this world up thanx to the basterds French.

The root of all evil is GREED
Radix malorum est Cupiditas

And the French are GREEDY

by Ken at December 5, 2004 12:27 AM

fuck usa ! fuck americans bastards ! fuck americans pigs ! fuck bush !
In 2001, the USA betrayed the world with its stupid iraqui's war ! ON VOUS EMMERDE !!!!

(nan, mais c'est inouï, ça ! Qu'est-ce qu'y sont cons, putain !!!! Et vos mères, bande de salopes, elles en sucent 12
par jour, ces putes !!!!)

by gros boulet !!! at December 23, 2004 10:16 AM

It's safe to say the world would be a better place without the French, that’s what I’m reading into this thread. All modern day Muslim fundamentalism wouldn’t exist were it not for French kings forcing the dissolution of the Templars, and other knightly orders... lol

Jumping forward: Lafayette wouldn't have made his glorious if somewhat stooped victory march through Paris were it not for British help to the resistance, which was only possible thanks to arms provided (At high prices) by America, which in turn was made possible by Japanese aggression... Which was forced west because the propaganda of the Russians was so convincing in portraying a force only a madman would go against...

... God I hate the French. Not for any practical purposes, but simply because when I look at the history of the United Kingdom, whenever there is a lapse in glory, or a taint to the evolution of the old Empire… The French presence can be spotted in the text like Waldo in a crowd of smurfs. Always the sodding French manage to throw a spanner into the works of any logical progression, right up to the present day. Lets: Capitulate to the Nazi Wermacht, don’t support the British allies by allowing them free run of your nation, but send them instead through Belgium… And then when your useless front folds as readily as an old lady who never did grasp the rules of poker, leave the flanks of your ally wide open. And then when it’s all over, have the nerve to call the British, ‘Frenchmen returning to help their kin’. Some kind of strange logic, which traces English heritage to the Normans… Despite the fact the Normans were Scandinavians who adopted the French language and transformed French culture. *sobs* I’m ranting… L

by Ex Crimson Guard NCO at December 23, 2004 2:31 PM

yes, you can hate the french if you want, but that won't make you right.
what did we wrong any way, not to go to this fucking war in Irak? I think Americans should think a bit more before to act. You just had to let the UN inspectors do their job, and if there were really weapons of mass destruction there, then be sure we would have be on your side kicking out this fucking ass hole of Saddam (do you really think we like him by the way?)
but you did wrong on several major points:
first you deliberatly lied to the world, telling there were such weapons in Irak. We are not such fools to follow you like pets and risk the life of our soldiers for no reason. We are free to think and may be you're not, madia lied to you.
second you didn't care at all of the precious UN, cos even if it's not very efficient, it's still the only way to create a little order on this planet. You just created a total chaos. We didn't break alliances, you did it. You have split the western world in two sides with your war (we're not alone to think it was totaly stupid to go there)and it's too easy to think all is black or white.
no you're not the model of freedom and justice you used to be. and you proved it once again by reelecting a liar! you take no care of what prople in the world think, and I call this tyrany.
We'll never forget what you did for us during WWII of course. but that does'nt oblige us to piss on Human Rights. Be a bit more critic toward yourself and you'll understand maybe why we take different ways

by stouf.157 at December 26, 2004 3:47 PM

I would like to add another thing. What is that funny idea that we support China??

by stouf.157 at December 26, 2004 3:52 PM

I would like to add another thing. What is that funny idea that we support China??

by stouf.157 at December 26, 2004 3:52 PM

Putain, mais y sont vraiment cons, ces blaireaux d'Amerloques, hein ? Bande de gros culs, bouffez votre graisse !!!!!
Hey, "Ex Crimson Guard NCO" : I hate you too, you know ? Fuck you !!!

by gros boulet ! at December 26, 2004 5:16 PM

C'est marrant de voir comment ils s'enflamment les ricains quand meme.
Just because of a fucking idiot President and an even more stupid war, they look back in history, to the 18th century or further, to see reasons to hate French!!
We would have good reasons to hate everyone too then: italians because of the roman invasion (and other wars), spanish because of the wars of the 18th, Britain (lots of reasons then), Germany, Austria, Holland,.......Hey why not swedish because of the Vikings. Oh! I forgot russians, for many reasons too.. And Vietnamese,...who else?..Arabs yes they went to Poitier...

Then why not talk about what Americans did, not so long ago (remember Pinochet, it was another September11)
hey don't be silly, it's more intelligent to forgive, just how we did with Germans. Hopefully there are some men like Willy Brandt and De Gaulle (you sure don't know who they are, do you?)
We are not among those stupid persons to say "nazis" whenever we disagree with them. We just judge people for what they do TODAY.

And what I can say is that at the moment you just don't match with our ideals :
-put the international laws before the national laws (it's a obligation to enter the EU and Americans refuse that any American can be put on trial in the International Court of Justice)
-treat well poor people (more than 12% of poor people in the US, that means who are below the poverty boundary!!although they have the highest income per person!!- very bad health care, bad alimentation,..)
-treat well prisoners
-no death penalty (even Turkey abolished it!)
-be aware of ecology (highest level of pollution per capita in the world, didn't even -sign Kyoto..)
-Press freedom (rank 18 only in the World, arrestations of journalists , strange information channel like Fox News that obviously support the Government and give false information)
etc. etc.etc.

We also can't stand your ignorance of the World around you. Even Bush never used his passport before he bacame president! How could we then trust you! Things are not as simple as what your president says.
We faced terrorism too in the past. We were among the first to face bombings: remember the, in the metro of Paris in the 90s. A plane was taken by islamists in Marseille in 1994.
But the average Americans don't know this because they have avery low level of culture.
Spanish also faced a terrible attack, and they totally agree with us on the Iraq issue(the former Prime Minister was criticized about the war BEFORE the attack, population was against it in a great majority!, like in Italy by the way where you could see rainbow flags everywhere)

Many Americans still believe today that Saddam is linked to Al-Qaida!! Quelle bande de connards!
You should read the life of Saddam first, and yoiu'll know that yes, he's a fucking bastard (remember we were there in 1991!), but he opened hundreds of laic schools and has always struggled against islamists!!
Hey, chose better your ennemies next time if you want to struggle against terrorism!
Have you find weapons of mass destruction yet? I doubt you will. It's easy to attack a country where there is no weapons left!

I just hope American people will change their mind. Change the way they consider others. Be less stupid maybe, read more, I don't know, TRY TO THINK. Because globally we have the same aims. And with the world changing, it's important taht Europe and America keep a strong link.
Who wants China to control the World. Hey not us!

by stouf.157 at December 27, 2004 1:16 PM

“Hate italians because of the roman invasion (and other wars), spanish because of the wars of the 18th, Britain (lots of reasons then), Germany, Austria, Holland,.......Hey why not swedish because of the Vikings. Oh! I forgot russians, for many reasons too.. And Vietnamese,...who else?..Arabs yes they went to Poitier...”

Alright couple of points here… French civilisation before the Roman invasions? Poor trade agreements between tribes, several kings claiming several lands… In short, there was no civilisation before the Roman invasion… Reason to hate Italians? I think not. “Spanish because of the wars of the 18th century?” French Imperial expansion took Napoleon to Spain… Before that French aggression and royalist aims before the revolution started the wars. “Swedish because of the Vikings”: Scandinavians invaded and took the duchy of Normandy as their own, swearing fealty to the French king as a formality… Not because of any military threat. Were it not for the Normans vast leaps in technological warfare and the expansion of what is today considered Western civilisation wouldn’t exist Reason to hate Scandinavians? I think not. Russians for many reasons too? I’m gonna assume because of their involvement in the Napoleonic wars since we’re looking back that far… Their involvment wasn’t really impressive considering they were not using the Gregorian calender at the time and their forces were usually days or even weeks late for allied action beside British, and Prussian forces. And the Vietnamese? Heh heh, the Vietnamese were defending their country against French Imperial expansion, the Vietnamese provinces owned by France swelled to such a point that the Vietnamese standing armies had to improve… And that improvement consequently cost the Americans many years later. :)

“You should read the life of Saddam first, and yoiu'll know that yes, he's a fucking bastard (remember we were there in 1991!)”

You were there in 1991 to provide aid workers and supplies. The only real military actions of the French were seen through Peace Keepers put forward by the UN. Also… Just before that Gulf war, and when the UK were at war with Argentina over the Falkland Islands… Three British naval vessels – and very nearly an aircraft carrier - were sunk by French Exocet missiles provided to the Argentinians at a reasonable cost because the French wanted them tested. Some ‘friend’ to the British the French are, eh? I have a love for the States because since WWII they have supported their ‘friend’ the UK consistently since those dark times. Like the Falklands for example. It’s only right that we should do the same for them. What annoyed me about the Americans, up until recently, was their misplaced love for the French. I could excuse it because of events during the War for Independence, but enough is enough… The French have been exposed and the Americans are seeing it for the first time in a long time. I’m glad, I am so glad… heh heh. I was getting fed up of seeing the French stereotypical saviour in American movies turning up at some point to assist the American protagonist when he needed it most. lol

"Because globally we have the same aims. And with the world changing, it's important taht Europe and America keep a strong link."

If we have the same aims and if Europe and the US need to work more closely, why is Prime Minister Blair the only European world leader to travel from country to country explaining this fact at great length? The UK before the war almost became a bridge of communication between the US and the EU… The EU can’t make a statement without it being contested and monitored and approved by every representative of every nation, and by the time it is released said statement has usually been rendered redundant because it’s core point has been lost in the weeks before it was made.

I agree we of the West should work together… I just dislike the French… And hate the fact such a nation can use its veto to ill affect, virtually every chance it gets. Not just that, they never do it alone… They’ll always seek another veto sporting nation and ensure some backing before they put it forward, the French standing alone on a point? Pfft, never happens. As with the Germans before this war… Had they not agreed with French policy, the French would never have contested the war… I can’t prove it, but… I’ll wait for the French to do that for me the next time their veto needs waving. :)

I love talking the brown stuff.

by Ex Crimson Guard NCO at December 27, 2004 5:02 PM

we could talk hours and hours about history, because european history is very long. For example, you say Vikings were not a real threat at that time, but it's because you don't really know the complexity of the French history( no blame for that, you're not French) In fact Vikings came to Paris and if Parisians did'nt defeat them the whole country would have been invaded. We gave Normandy to Vikings to have peace. About Spain, wars between Spain and France are far more ancient than Napoleon time! Charlemagne invaded Spain for example, and each French child know the story of Rolland who died on the other side of the Pyrennees!Also, at the time of Louis XIV, Spain was certainly the major ennemy. About Italy, you maybe don't know the battle of Marignan in 1515, won by Francois Ier against the Swiss and Italians,which made Fontainebleau the centre of the European culture, as some artists like Da Vinci came to France.

Anyway,what I just wanted to show is that it's very stupid to try to see a continuity in history, as countries were allies a day, ennemies another. It would be too easy to see in France an eternal ennemy as actually we fought everyone!
Just please focus on the present. And what is the problem? This war? Many British are actually against this war. It is very easy to find arguments to be against this war. So don't try to make a whole nation an ennemy because the people didn't see clearly the reasons to go to Iraq! As we expected, your aims are really not achieved. Iraq was not an islamist country, and you made it a perfect ground for islamists to train their army. And thanks to wars like this one, you give more opportunities to islamists to spread their influence. Bin laden is too happy to have an ennemy like Bush to wake up islamist fundamentalism.
Moreover, Americans appear to be a threat, because they can decide to fight a war for no real reason against a country they just don't like. It's far from the glorious image you had before.

And I often read in this site that you consider that France is not very helpful. Ok no French would have the arrogance to say that our army is half the strength of the american. But the French force counted 19000 men-ok it's not much compared to the US force:535000! or the one of Saudi Arabia(120000), but we had many planes, ships, and tanks. The French force was largely similar to the British force but you would never say British are useless.. It's a shame you say that, and it won't make France a better ally.
It just makes us fell the necessity to create a european force, independant from the US force, as France is a too small country now. We are only 60millions and our country is only 550000 square kilometres large! We know very well that we need allies. It's just that now, we think our future is in a strong Europe (it's a long way but it's not impossible), and we put less trust in America.
A shame for you and for us too, but that won't change much with the new American Policy: "Be with us or be our ennemies" This policy won't bring you much friendlyness in the world.
The law of the strongest is not always the best. It's not the popularity of French people that is decreasing, but the one of the Americans, believe it or not. And you have more to lose than us in behaving like that.

by stouf.157 at December 28, 2004 10:09 AM

“For example, you say Vikings were not a real threat at that time, but it's because you don't really know the complexity of the French history( no blame for that, you're not French) In fact Vikings came to Paris and if Parisians did'nt defeat them the whole country would have been invaded. We gave Normandy to Vikings to have peace.“

I appear to have a greater grasp of French history than you my friend. I didn’t say the Vikings were not a threat, I said that they were, and given the desire they could have usurped the power of the French king, and created a second Danelaw, (As in Britain) there are more obvious comparisons as to what this new kingdom would have resembled but Danelaw is quite close to capturing the essence of it. Those Scandinavians to have taken the Duchy of Normandy were content with Normandy – which didn’t actually become a Duchy until said Vikings had sworn fealty to the French King. Northmen – Northman – Normandy. Any army from Flanders would have been trounced… It didn’t happen. At that time the single Duchy of Normandy sported more power than France as a whole. :)

“About Spain, wars between Spain and France are far more ancient than Napoleon time!”

Yes I know, but to be fair you did say in your original comment: “Spain because of the 18th century.”

“Anyway,what I just wanted to show is that it's very stupid to try to see a continuity in history, as countries were allies a day, ennemies another. It would be too easy to see in France an eternal ennemy as actually we fought everyone!”

Maybe that’s the point, alliances do change, and enemies become friends… But I think of all the European nations, perhaps France is the only one to be able to boast: “We’ve fought everyone!"

“Just please focus on the present. And what is the problem? This war? Many British are actually against this war. It is very easy to find arguments to be against this war. So don't try to make a whole nation an ennemy because the people didn't see clearly the reasons to go to Iraq!”

A great majority of British people were against the war, and their primary reason was simply that the UK forces, as you’ve stated, couldn’t make a difference next to an American force because the Americans don’t really need the manpower. British people didn’t want to see British servicemen dying for any cause that wasn’t defending our own shores, I suppose. But Blair sent the troops, and the day they left that wide majority of protestors became a majority of support for the soldiers out there. And the thing of a UK force being no more than a gesture has recently been lost due to Black Watch troops moving forward to alleviate some pressure from Americans to offer them more latitude in combating insurgents.
I have to say also that British involvement on the wide scale is limited only because we are acting as a support force, more for the Union Flag flying beside the Star Spangled banner on news reels and headlines than for the actual, physical offering of men with guns. Our involvement is to show other western nations that we won’t stand to see totalitarian states maintained, and dictatorships endure: A notion France needs to get its head around sooner rather than later! I couldn’t give a flying fuck whether or not Saddam had weapons. He defied the EU and he didn’t recognise it as a legitimate authority. And you, as somebody who can cite the EU as being this glorious thing in which we all work together, should readily oppose any world leader who defies it. It doesn’t make sense that you don’t support the war. Even if it is just to support the precious EU you’ve been harping on about (People of the West should work together etc.). Your argument is contradictory. Left to the EU Iraq would be facing its 100th sanction by now, and still with no show of arms or power… I’m glad the Americans have the balls to steam ahead sometimes, like a defiant soldier disobeying shoddy orders from a CO whose skill matches those of WWII French officer. You go Joes! lol

“As we expected, your aims are really not achieved. Iraq was not an islamist country.”

What the hell was it then, a haven of peace and prosperity? People were being tortured, and oppressed. As a citizen of a democratic state you should open your mind to the choices you’re offered, and learn to appreciate that not everybody in the world is as lucky as you are. The pleasure of typing whatever you like onto this website without fear of being tormented, shot, or hanged. Freedom of speech, and freedom of choice… You can read whatever you like, and you, yes even you, are free to argue ‘for’ an Iraqi cause. But just because you’re free to do it doesn’t make your contrary position correct.

“And I often read in this site that you consider that France is not very helpful.“

I have nothing against France itself; the soil is probably much the same as that in my country… It’s just the people who call that soil home I have a problem with. You’re a bunch of raging idiots. - That’s my democratically permitted freedom of attitude talking. :)

”The law of the strongest is not always the best. It's not the popularity of French people that is decreasing, but the one of the Americans, believe it or not.”

Well I can say on behalf virtually all of the people on my island that the popularity of French people has never existed… And that the British peoples opinion of the Americans has always been one that rates pretty high. I’d put this down to the fact we share a common language, and a common cause… (Gah, there’s another irritating point with the French, you know French control towers don’t want to speak English when directing air traffic and are trying to force international pilots into speaking French instead… lol, what a people!)
I’d happily move to the USA tomorrow.
“And you have more to lose than us in behaving like that.”
They haven’t lost anything they won’t miss, and the eye opener they received from nations like yours can only be a good thing. Your comments border dangerously on the realms of a desire to see a European super power governed by the EU. Let me tell you, it won’t happen. Because we all know who’d want to head such a power… Don’t we? I can see the bickering already.

by Ex Crimson Guard NCO at December 28, 2004 1:25 PM

Well you showed much arrogance and your language is sharp!
first let me apoplogise for my approximative English, I'm jus a French you know.

I was not trying to make an history lesson. It was just a quick sum up for a general idea: stop talking about histrory, there is nothing you can prove with it
It's very arrogant to say to someone you know better the history of his own country! Maybe english people know much about the Vikings as they play a greater part in their history than in ours. But concerning the Vikings, what I said is not false, just short. They took other places like Nantes before they arrived near Paris. And the Denish army was hopefully defeated in Chartres. There was a treaty signed by Charles III le simple and the Denish King that gave what is Normandie today to the Denish if they stopped the invasion and if they accepted the baptism. Wat is more you give me a lesson of etymology but no French ignore the origin of the word Normandie as we also call the people from the north "Normands".You talk about Flanders but Flemish were too happy to see the power of the French King decrease. France has not always been the (quite) homogeneous country it is today. I don't know where you read that Normandy was better than the whole France at that time, but it's a bit exagerating.
Besides, for Spain, I did not mean 18th but 17h, ". that's true, as I was already thinking of Louis XIV.

"A GREAT MAJORITY OF BRITISH WERE AGAINST THE WAR". I am happy you say that. Lots of people, and I especially mean Americans in that case, think the will of a government fits people opinion. Concerning Europe, it's all but true about this war. Italians, Spanish, Portugese, and even British weere against it. France and Germany were among those which had the balls to say no to the US. It's more a moral issue than a way to annoy Americans. What this means is that you condemn a whole nation for its opinion when we were not different from others.

You talk about what was Iraq before you came. We never meant Iraq was "a haven of prosperity". (but let me believe the embargo reinforced the support of Iraqis to Saddam, as Americans appeared to be the reason of their poverty). We hate Saddam too. But it's more general than that. Tortures, all that. Yes, we know.
Well let me be very skeptical. Do you really think US only go to war for humanism? I doubt you're so naive.

The problem is more general than for the Iraq itself. For the first time, they deliberatly fucked the UN. They gave reasons for the war, do you remember. ALL OF THEM were wrong. ALL. Bush did not say the war was to kick Saddam out, but because he was a threat. And the UN inspectors showed it was wrong. He used the September11 attacks as an argument when there is obviously no links between Saddam and Al Qaida.
What happened this time is very dangerous for the stability of the World. We created the UN after WWII to provide peace. That means now, you should not go to war without the UN approval. You can't go to war with no proof. For the credibilty of the US too, it's important to respect some rules.
Our "little country" warned them that it would be like a box of Pandorre (I don't know the English word) Something that looks great but once you open it, all you have is horror and despair.

War is nothing heroic. It means death and destruction, and should be used in last recourse. But that is your mess now. Don't think French would like the war to be a total disaster. France already signed resolutions with Britain and US to make Iraq safer.
Our aim has never been the intability of the region, on the contrary, that's why we said no. And well there's nothing wrong to have said no. We were not alone, and at the moment, with no pleasure I can tell that everything happened as expected.
Anyway, till your soldiers are over there, I guess it's not the time for you to think about all that. But I hope you will afterwards.

Let me answer to you on the EU topic. It seems you don't want it to become stronger than it is today. And you blame France for wanting to rule it.
France is strongly linked to Germany because Europe certainly needs a motor. Frist it was created in a pacific aim. France and Germany have contributed much to the success of the EU. So don't try to see us as despots. Of course maybe sometimes we want our country to have more than it may have. I can admit it, as it's somehow logical, every country acts this way. But on a larger scale, we can say that we were more than often avant-guardists.
Maybe it's because you live on an island that you don't need to try to live with your neighbours. But contrary to France or Germay, England did not help much the process. I would say so far it's more a problem than anything. You're more often late than in advance. And I wonder what would happen if English don't accept the Constitution.
Your country could be a great support as it's a great economic power for Europe. But til now we gained not much thanks to you.
Yes I would like the EU to be more powerful. Not a superpower to crush our ennemies or to rule over the World. But just for the European nations to be independant and self-sufficient.

Well I don't give a fuck to what you think about France. And what the hell are you talking about with those Control Towers? I guess people like you just try to see in any thing a good reason to hate France. But if you were not so narrow minded, you would see more reasons to like it.
Anyway people like you just find reasons to hate all their neighbours, all what is different, it not only concerns France.

There is nothing to gain in talking with people like you, it always finish into a fight. Because you don't want to have a general understanding but search in any little anecdote a good reason to stay on your preconceptions. Things like the Control towers. Or history, doesn't matter if it's very long ago. Or because of soccer matches. Or the fact we eat snails maybe! Lots of English people still come to France to visit it or even to settle here. And lots of French too cross the Channel to work.

My country is the ennemy of no others. It's the ennemy of those who want to impose their rules to others. We are not against jews, but against Sharon. We are not against arabs, but against islamist fundamentalism. We were not against Americans, but they acted here in a way that did not seem just to us. You can find a reason to hate us. That's a pity. We just had a right to say no.

Allez salut, I let you talk about french fries that are not french, criticise french cuisine, say Descartes is a stupid and that we think we invented the Renaissance (yeah all that surely makes Effenheimer the right to say no French author is worth reading)

by stouf.157 at December 30, 2004 7:41 AM

Stouf:- “Stop talking about histrory, there is nothing you can prove with it.”

History… My cigarette smoking, language slurring, kiss, fries, and toast prefixing friend… Is the greatest of all teachers!

Stouf:- "France and Germany were among those which had the balls to say no to the US. It's more a moral issue than a way to annoy Americans. What this means is that you condemn a whole nation for its opinion when we were not different from others.”

France and Germany have only the balls to threaten a dictatorship with sanctions and shy bravado. It doesn’t take balls to say no the US, what is the US going to do? Boycott French wine and Wieners? It takes balls to make a demand with threat of force, and when it is not met, to use that force. And on the contrary, I condemn an entire nation solely because of its consistency in annoying me to the core of my very being. Half of your post wants to make me scream. You speak of arrogance as if it were a trait you’re yet to attain… lol

When looking at the facts you can’t escape one thing… It doesn’t matter why some of us are now at war… It only matters that the war is justified. The authority that is the EU has deemed it so. After twelve years of empty threats, sanctions, and talk it had to start some time. With that in mind it’s not difficult to see that America going first was inevitable. It would hardly be the Germans… God no, they never want to appear aggressive again, ever. “Wir sind die feinsten leute… wir hassen kampfen… lol” Was it ever going to be the French?

I’ll let that one hang.

Iraq… Should be old news. Saddam was given a twelve-year ticket of joy and it expired when the righteous hand of Islam collided with Western architecture. What would France’s reaction have been if it were the Offal Tower to have toppled, crushing thousands of French people?


… Probably.

Stouf:- “Let me answer to you on the EU topic. It seems you don't want it to become stronger than it is today. And you blame France for wanting to rule it.
France is strongly linked to Germany because Europe certainly needs a motor. Frist it was created in a pacific aim. France and Germany have contributed much to the success of the EU. So don't try to see us as despots. Of course maybe sometimes we want our country to have more than it may have. I can admit it, as it's somehow logical, every country acts this way. But on a larger scale, we can say that we were more than often avant-guardists.
Maybe it's because you live on an island that you don't need to try to live with your neighbours. But contrary to France or Germay, England did not help much the process. I would say so far it's more a problem than anything. You're more often late than in advance. And I wonder what would happen if English don't accept the Constitution.”

Your arrogance is matched only by your ignorance. The EU was formed to help unite the European continent. To perhaps gain some stability where previously there had been only war. Who was constantly at war on the continent you ask. The French of course, and… Oh, wait for it… The Germans. What a shocker.

England did not help much in the process!?! You are coming dangerously close to making a real enemy out of me… lol The United Kingdom was not included in the early formation of the EU because WE HAD AN EMPIRE! We didn’t need your sodding coal or steel, we had it in ample supply. You see, history IS the greatest of all teachers. We had those things in ample supply, along with great wealth, which was squandered - I’m sorry to have to click into the caps here but - LIBERATING YOUR “FRENCH” SHITE HOLE, AND FIGHTING THE “GERMAN” SHITE HOLE! We lost an Empire, and gained a piddling spot in the EU… And what else do we get? Oh yes, perhaps not despots… But people with greater authority from the two nations that only exist due to an Empire lost and a new breed of Empire beginning… The UK, and the US.

You can shove the EU up your arse if you think the UK will join without a lot of golden handshakes… What do you think our government is bartering for? A place in the corner or under a French desk sucking French cock? If we have to wave goodbye to our currency, it will only be with Germany and France bent the hell over as we ride them closer to the continent.
Stouf:- “There is nothing to gain in talking with people like you, it always finish into a fight. Because you don't want to have a general understanding but search in any little anecdote a good reason to stay on your preconceptions. Things like the Control towers. Or history, doesn't matter if it's very long ago. Or because of soccer matches. Or the fact we eat snails maybe! Lots of English people still come to France to visit it or even to settle here. And lots of French too cross the Channel to work.”
The only insult I can muster for you is: “You’re French!” In my country there is no greater insult than that. What really gets my goat is… You think that you’re making a clear and irrefutable argument… And the kicker is you think you’re doing it without delivering insults yourself… lmao… So French! I find it insulting that you don’t recognise history as a solid source for modern day reference. I hate that books can be released pretending to be history, but in countries like yours they don’t convey even half of the truth. I hear a history book is due for release to which every citizen of every nation can read and enjoy, a real “the history of the world” deal, with those nasty bits missing. “Japan, war? Huh?” “French? Helped? Huh?” “Nazis? Is that an icecream?” … … …

... I apologise for any 'speeling' errors but I am ever so slightly... Uhm... Disgruntled.

by Ex Crimson Guard NCO at December 30, 2004 1:16 PM

Sorry, a couple of times I said EU I meant UN... I'm sure folk can decide for themselves which should go where. :)

by Ex Crimson Guard NCO at December 30, 2004 1:30 PM

God save the Queen
Yanks are pants and pretty thick.

by God!! at January 4, 2005 11:25 AM

Un bon gros TANK pour TANKULER, effenheimer de merde !!!!!

by Bugeaud at January 9, 2005 10:39 AM

And fuck you too, Crimson !

by Bugeaud at January 10, 2005 12:28 PM

I love the smell of flamed Frenchmen in the morning, smells like victory.

by Ex Crimson Guard NCO at January 10, 2005 2:02 PM

French fries, Crimson?

by Ezy at January 10, 2005 4:29 PM

That's strange : the american language have one only curse : the miserable "fuck" ! Every time "Fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck…" It's a pity…
Not like the french language ! Look an exemple : "Sacré Putain de bordel de putain de merdre de sale chien qui bouffe ta putain de mère la salope "! (excusez-la grossièrté, mais avouez que ça a quand même une autre gueule !!!)

by Bigeard at January 19, 2005 7:28 AM

lol... You French fool. Your language's list of curses doesn't even scratch the surface when compared to English curses... English is not the greatest language on the planet for no reason you know!

cunt n.

The female genitals. Once common parlance, the term has been considered impolite since the end of the 14th Century. Not recommended for use in front of the mother-in-law.

cunt bubble n.

An air lock up the fanny, often leading to a minge burp.

cuntstruck adj.

Besotted; hopelessly in love.

Theres three cunts for yer, and I could, given the time and enough web space, list thousands of curses you would never have dreamed existed. Pah... French! Pfft! Come to England this summer and I'll gather a horde of friends to offend you after you've already taken offence from the Waterloo signs and statues of Wellesley standing on Boney's head.

by Ex Crimson Guard NCO at January 19, 2005 10:50 AM

I´m from Iceland an island very green despite the name. We are a handsome people, we are a viking people. All i can say is much love to my Norman brothers in France and fuck the fat ugly americans, specially the fucking stuipid tourists do they really think we will speak english to these fat dwarfs? In Reykjavík my small capital were people are big we beat up american tourists for fun. Why you ask? because they are not Norman brothers and are nothing to us. I don´t really care much about the rest of Francer exept Brittany, much love to my celtic cousins ! And for the UK the englsh should admitt the Normans gave them all they have really as they were just a buch of saxon gilrs being raped by us norse. Anyway fuck the US.

by Björn Ulfsson at January 19, 2005 4:52 PM

Where'd you say you were from again? I'm only familiar with nations acting on the forefront of the world stage. I... Ice... Something, was it?

by Ex Crimson Guard NCO at January 19, 2005 5:05 PM

Liste des exploits de ce cher président Bush fils, qui est encore plus con que son père (si, si, c'est possible !!!) :

— He refused the kyoto's protocol
— He went to Irak (results : one G.I die every day !)
— He thinks the capital punishment is good
— He doesn't respect the UNO's decisions
— …, etc…

So, how american people can to vote for this man ?

by Peutit-peutit… at January 22, 2005 9:27 AM

In my past experience with cultures I must say that meeting Americans has proven to be an enlightening experience for me when compared to the French. Americans prove to be extremely friendly, outgoing and generous, quite the contrast to the snobby, pompous attitudes of so many French and English people I have met. I am just referring to my own experiences and by no means do i know anybody that posts here.

However when arguing which culture is superior, I have to reference the attemp of the USA to change the name from French Fries to Freedom Fries. I mean from a country that wants to think it is the only superpower left in the world, and feels it needs to babysit everyone (despite the fact that they only address serious situations like that of Sudan's after a few words from possibly the most intelligent humanitarian in the world, Kofi Annan), it is the most immature action i have ever heard of. I half expected the Statue of Liberty to be packed up and sent back to France, not that i think many American really relate it to a present from the French, and more as thier own creation, a land mark of New York. There is no doubt in my mind that Americans, when preaching their ethnocentric patriotism, are extremly annoying, for lack of a harsher word.

So which culture is right in the end? I go with Canada. One of the few places in teh world left where you can still be French, American, Dutch, English, Muslim , Black, White, or an alien and our liberal attitude will still accept you as long as you are willing to say Canadian either before or after each of those terms. But if you can't be Canadian, and virtually anyone can, I say stick with Iceland, it isn;t such a bad place to live, and they even enjoy hockey. :)

by dominathan at January 22, 2005 10:53 PM

Oh ! Look at DOMINATHAN : a stupid man (like my compatriot Bigeard, anyway…) who dares to make fun of the french culture, so he's American (and we all know the "great" american culture !) ! Very funny…
The french and english civilizations existed since the 10th century, so the american civilization existed since the 18th century : a pity !

by Un bon Raffarin est un Raffarin mort ! at January 25, 2005 3:35 PM

Fuuuuuuck TEXAS !!!
Swallow your stenson, fuck off cow-boy !!! Yeeeeaaaah !!! (sincerly, I think every texan are stupids !)
(C'est comme ça qu'on dit en texan, hein ?)

by le parigot at January 25, 2005 3:45 PM

I never said I was American. You said it. If you aren;'t going to read what i write, and read it with an open mind no less, then please do not attemp to retort to it. I see no place for insults, but I can take well made arguements. I am Canadian and proud to wear the maple leaf everywhere I go. I can alos think of things I'd rather be called than American, like French. At least the Americans only tried to take over Canada, not tried to leave it.

Also i see no evidence of myself stating anything about when these countries began. Stop reading inbetween the lines and start reading the actual words.

and finally this may be due to your attempts at becoming bi-lingual, something i respect as my French is quite flawed, but there are numerous words more descriptive than stupid you could use to insult me. I'd give you a list but I dislike the embarassing way you already abuse our language, even if it isn;t as romanticized as yours.

by dominathan at January 25, 2005 10:44 PM

Aaaah ! Please ! Stop hate ! This site is realy too stupid ! L'Effenheimer est un con, tant pis pour sa vieille gueule, et voilà !

by Guignol at January 26, 2005 9:04 AM

I apologize for the hate.. I try not to spread it but to not allow hate is to censor, and that brings up whole new issues. And i was just trying to defned myself, not spread propaganda.

by dominathan at January 26, 2005 5:56 PM

Fuck EVERYBODY... (make love?, not war?)

So funny, enjoyable... lol... If you don't think the French are a bit dense, read thier posts above..lol.. we don't have to put you down, you do that for us...

One place worse than France? West Virginia.... lol......

by Andrew the Texan at January 31, 2005 10:51 AM

"Sacré putain de nom de dieu de 40 000 pines de babouins en papillotes !"
(pas mal, hein, Bigeard ?)

Is there anybody able to translate the Andrew's post in french ? Because I don't understand…

by Lepetitbouffon at January 31, 2005 3:00 PM

Les Francais s'averent continuellement etre les genies absolus quand il vient aux arguments et a n'importe quel genre de querelle orale, vraiment ils sont de grands peuples, je les baiseraient tous s'ils me laissent seulement.

A loose translation but that's the closest you're gonna get fellow human.

by Ex Crimson Guard NCO at January 31, 2005 4:29 PM

That's no wonder Bush was elected if every Americans are like Crimson…
And every french fuck you Crimson, you know ? Fuck your mother, yes ! Bastard ! Sale putain de chien de merde !

by Gugu at February 1, 2005 4:00 PM

Si votre mere n'etait pas un cheval je la baiserais, mais elle est un cheval, ainsi je ne le dirai pas!

And... Fuck you Gugu, you know? Wouldn't fuck your horsey French mother, no! Bastard! lol

by Ex Crimson Guard NCO at February 1, 2005 4:28 PM

I wouldn't be entirely upset by that comment Crimson... "And every french fuck you..."

Even if they don't all shave some of em gotta be at least decent looking.

by dominathan at February 1, 2005 6:59 PM

My French teacher was French in school, and she was the fattest, hairiest, most hideous looking woman. She'd force us to stand at the head of the class to recite the horse-latin until we were unconsciously pouting like true Frenchies as we spoke, god I hated French class.

My Spanish teacher though, was English, and she was an absolute stunner, and I'm sure that if I'd had more courage I could have had one of those torrid teacher student affairs... *sigh* I'm convinced of it, seriously. Damn my teenage self, damn him! She was the only teacher to keep me behind for reasons other than punishment, 'Can you help me with this?' And she'd share her coffee with me at break time when she was on security detail in my House block, aah, sweet days. *sob* Seems so long ago. :(

by Ex Crimson Guard NCO at February 2, 2005 8:42 AM

Pffff, la vache ! Sincerly, it's pathetic… You're all stupid, Americans, Frenchs and others…
You speak like kids (ouais, toi aussi Bigeard, Gugu et les autres !) ! So, shut up, please.

by camarade syndiqué at February 2, 2005 12:14 PM

Euuuh ! L'gars, là ! T'es qui toi ? 'Fais pas chier, mec, tu fous l'camp, ouais ?

by Bigeard at February 4, 2005 1:51 PM

its funny when sombody using obviously limited language (as a kid might) tells others they are talking like kids. Granted it is probably because you speak two languages and French is your first (which I admittedly can not do proficiently), but the iront is still there nonetheless.

by dominathan at February 4, 2005 5:54 PM

On second thought it is even more ironic to help fuel the fire and post something on a string that you believe is childish. You say it is childish, but then you play the part as well as I do? Wow! I think I just gave myself a complex.

by dominathan at February 4, 2005 5:56 PM

Hey, hey… Shut up, man, shut up, OK ? Go home.
(Ta gueule, mec ! Retourne dans ta poubelle, et nous fais pas chier, pigé ?)

by Gudu at February 5, 2005 2:02 PM

I am home... I really don't understand what you mean by that.

And I don't understand the French well enough to rebut it.

by dominathan at February 5, 2005 5:26 PM

Gudu votre bouche francaise est bonne pour rien mais pissant dedans, et vous pouvez seulement compter sur vos compatriotes degoutants pour faire cela, parce que le reste du monde pisserait plutot dans la bouche d'un lion. C'est plus sur! Les virus francais de passage de bouches aussi aisement que les putains francaises flatulentes baisent pour des dollars d'Euro! Et puisque vous etes tous les putains francaises il y a beaucoup de devise changeant continuellement des mains!

I can smell your women from this scepted isle, and I gotta tell you, the Channel No 5 ain't doing a damn thing to hide the stench. ;) Down with the tunnel, booo!

by Ex Crimson Guard NCO at February 5, 2005 8:28 PM

Yo, men ! Look at this ! A yankee who speak french (= very bad !!!)
Ha ha ha ha !

by Gudu at February 6, 2005 6:35 AM

Rhôôô, l'aut' !
Please, Gudu, shut up a little… You're a pain in the neck. And you too, Crimson and Dominithian…

by Camarade syndiqué at February 6, 2005 6:39 AM

Gudu you spaz, why would I say 'down with the tunnel' if I were American... Are you Frenchies digging one I don't know about? Why would I say 'from this scepted isle' if I were American... You moron. Since when was America an island?

Comme un Français vrai votre logique deductive est merde. Je ne vais pas me servir de ce langage encore, vous clairement ne pouvez comprendre lui, ou aucun autre du tout bien.

by Ex Crimson Guard NCO at February 6, 2005 1:01 PM

Hey ! Gudu ! You know, I think Crimson speak a good french, so your english is horrible (just like mine ! LOL)

by Le Patriote at February 6, 2005 2:19 PM

Ta gueule connard T kune merde !

by Bigeard at February 8, 2005 6:22 AM

So, Crim', Dominithian, Gudu, what happen ? Where are you, boys ?

by Cal at February 9, 2005 12:30 PM

Hi, I'm french.. still there? cool. When I'm in europe, I'm used to try to make people having antiamerican feelings think more. Usually, what they hate the more is the american arrogance and selfishness, like the "we won WWII", and more seriously, starting a war unilaterally while hoping the remaining world to be happy with that.. and then to speak about democracy.. well, there is some few points like this one I can't contest. After a few reading here, starting by the first one, I am now sure that brain's weak people are everywhere and know no frontiers. The quite logical thing is that it's generally people tending to be the more country lovers that are the more dumb and feel the more hatred, whatever the country you are in.

by alex at February 9, 2005 2:27 PM

Exactly, yes, I'm agree with Alex. In France, a lot of people think Americans are too arogants and everybody don't understand why Bush was elected… how it's possible ? You know, this man, the actual US president, in 2001, during an interview, he couldn't quote names of 3 foreign dirigeants… horrible, no ?
And remeber Peutit-peutit's comment…

by TÉTACLAK at February 9, 2005 3:32 PM

Everything about France irritates me (See above). Nothing more so though, than Hollywood America's knack of including a stereotype Frenchman who'd pull the hero Yank/s out of danger. Ronin, Godzilla, uhm... The Patriot, lol, justified maybe I like the Nazi portrayal of the British in that film, very good. Forget that Britain was at war with old Boney and British needs to cut the French off from trade with the states only hindered the French war effort. Bah, all started from propaganda... Greedy Americans.

It all seems to hark back to the War of Independence... Seems more recently those French characters have been replaced by British characters instead... lol. Look at that flick recently with the Ice Age coming back... yeah it was so good I can't rememberthe title! British characters... Not! I repeat not! playing bad guys! :-O

I just hate France... Always have... Always will... I've met a very many nice French people, and I've talked to a lot of them and gotten on well with them... As a nation, and a people... You get the thumbs down from me though. Just accept that some people don't like your country. It's really not that hard to fathom, accept it, and move on.

Shrug and go: "Oh, well, it's an opinion." I dare you if you're French to not follow this comment with a comment of your own. I'll wager 100 Euro's that you can't!

by Ex Crimson Guard NCO at February 9, 2005 4:43 PM

The best part about this string is all the references and counter attacks directed at the states. It seems there are two significant recipients of the attacks. One is the States. The other France. Read carefully now. No skipping lines. Neither Crimson or I are American. Therefore we are very unlikely to be insulted by this direction of degradation. But as I said before I find French people abrupt, rude, and hell they even tried to leave Canada... twice. The States as country I have great political problems with, but I rarely meet nicer people than those from the States.

In closing I'm gonna say hypothetical battles like this are pointless. There is no real right and wrong when it comes to intangible subjects like politics. It is time to stop this mindless belly aching and hear some valid points about why people have pride. Instead of the endless battle of "F*** You" and other really invalid points, I encourage people to use this string to tell me why they are proud of their countries, and why your place of residence is "superior" .

PS Go Canada

by dominathan at February 9, 2005 8:02 PM

Hey, Crimson, espèce de gros con bourré à la graisse de ;phoque, I hate you too, do you understand this, fuck off ?
France fucks you !!!

by bdjcfsgd at February 11, 2005 5:17 PM

well...I'm glad to see that Mr Crimson is not one of my french compratiots... We don't need fat,binky,alcoholic,and pro-bush people....
So thank you so much of staying in America, thanks.

by varreuse at February 11, 2005 5:23 PM

I see I'm going to have to start every comment with: "I AM NOT AMERICAN!"

And you French! Pfft! Can you please stop slaughtering my language with your every post, I've been damned nice using your language properly, with words in the correct (If somewhat deranged) order, excluding my refusal to use accents, I've been really good to it. So... Try harder!

Accents... I swear your written language should, along with the languages of many European countries, have been revised to work without them, bah! Annoying.

by Ex Crimson Guard NCO at February 11, 2005 6:37 PM

If I meat the president Bush (this small fucker), I say it to him : Shut up, bouffe-toi les couilles, swallow your stenson, fuck off cow-boy !!!!
(yeeaaaah !!!! = like an bastard texan cow-boy !!!!!)

by fucker ricain at February 14, 2005 2:37 PM

if i would like to ring your bell i'd fuck off bush

by fucker ricain at February 14, 2005 2:40 PM

I think all the rican are very big and stupid and very very pathethiks you would like to be the king of the world but you are very a small nation and you have got a small deck your are very horrible and guy you are fucking by all the french people

by fucker ricain at February 14, 2005 2:50 PM

je vourdais vou sdire ke vous etes des fils de putes de connard d'enculer damericain vous vous trouver les plus fort mais vous etes des grosse teb(bites) vous etes nuls a chier en plus vous etes un pays colloniser par tt les pays d'europes a vouvou parmetter d'ouvrir votre grandes gueule et votre gros cul on vous pisse au cul bandes de degenere menteaux

by fucker ricain at February 14, 2005 2:57 PM

Look, if everyone in France is willing, I'm able... All I can say is...

... Bring it! *unzip* *schlong* Ta-da! Sod the Houston 500... Lets go, Crimson 61.1 Million. Clean me off after every one instead of every fifty though, you French are dirty.

by Ex Crimson Guard NCO at February 14, 2005 4:26 PM

Un petit bonjour de la France profonde. Votre site est trés rigolo! Continuez!
J'aimerai visiter la Louisiane et le Texas. Pouvez vous m'indiquer des endroits sympas à visiter?


A bientot.

by Rodolphe de Poitiers at February 19, 2005 7:34 PM


by J.P.P. at February 20, 2005 9:18 AM

Bonjour..... pardon nikez vos mères les ricains. c'est pas très constructifs mais ca fait du bien.
alors comme ca on se la pete avec ses petis marines de mes couilles, c'est tellement des burnes qu'ils ne se mesures plus à la Légion étrangère : Ricains=baltringue, tafiole, homosexual :)
Ils ont des M 16 et savent même pas s'en servir c'est grave quand même. si vous voulez rigolez de voir leur niveau d'entraînement : www.ogrish.com

by Gal De Gaulle at March 28, 2005 12:09 AM

Bande de fils de pute de vos meres. Je vous baise un par un avec vos gueule de connard, i shit on u, sucks Mc Do, asshole, there's a lot of fat girl in your mothafickin' country!! suck my dick bastards. fuck off gay's band
bande d'enculé de vos mere, je vous chie dessus fils de pute de batard, connard, résidu de chromosome d'hamburger pourri, vous sentez du cul, you smell ass. vous etes tous refait bande batard, en plus vous n'avez même pas d'histoire et vous jouer les malins. moi je vous emmerde tous mais alors tous le premier ricain que je vois je le bute. et je traduierais pas parceque votre langue est pourri comme vous, vous êtes tous racistes bande de con, votre pays pue la merde, votre langue sera bientot l'espagnole vous allez mourrir, you'll gonna die, i put a bottle of Bordeaux in ur ass, so fuck u fuck off, shut da fuck up, bitches

by BUSH FUCKER at April 2, 2005 7:00 PM

Bush Fucker... Should be a spokesman, ambassador of the French... He captured the essence of the nation in a single post.

I swear that country should do us all a favour and nuke itself, by rights, it should even exist.

by Ex Crimson Guard NCO at April 3, 2005 6:22 AM

Hey Crimson, I'm sure your mother helped you to write the last one, we all know that you can't write 2 words properly in a same sentence. Go bact to school, even if they'll accept you.

Anyway, I used to love you Americans. You became racists, we became racists... That's a shame for our 2 countries. We could do a lot of things together. I only hope we'll be friends again one day

Hello from France

by Rasta at April 11, 2005 11:46 AM

Cheers Rasta, you may be right. I was supposed to type "should'nt" not should... even exist. Nyah and boo to you Frenchy. I'm not American, for the hundredth time, nor am I racist.
Hello from England.

by Ex Crimson Guard NCO at April 11, 2005 12:26 PM

Hey, no matters with british.
I'm in good touch with them even if some of them hate me because I'm french
...hugh I'm too nice you know

by RASTA at April 23, 2005 1:20 AM

Hey, no matters with british.
I'm in good touch with them even if some of them hate me because I'm french
...hugh I'm too nice you know

by RASTA at April 23, 2005 1:20 AM

Hey, no matters with british.
I'm in good touch with them even if some of them hate me because I'm french
...hugh I'm too nice you know

by RASTA at April 23, 2005 1:21 AM

Hey, no matters with british.
I'm in good touch with them even if some of them hate me because I'm french
...hugh I'm too nice you know

by RASTA at April 23, 2005 1:31 AM

Hé, Gal De Gaulle et BUSH FUCKER, je vois qu'on est d'accord à propos de cette bande de cow-boys plein de graisse et qui nous font gravement chier !
J'ai bien envie de me rammener au Texas et de leur griller le cul à cette bande d'enculés de merde !

Vos marines, vos rangers, vos SEALS, c'est de la chiote en ragoût ! En fait, l'US Army, c'est THE BIG MERDE ! Le seul pays que vous ayez réussi à vaincre depuis la deuxième guerre mondiale, c'est PANAMA ! Putain, quel exploit ! Ohlàlà, j'en reviens pas, les boules !

PANAMA avait une armée d'au moins 1200 hommes ! 'vache, ça rigolait pas, hein ! Et attention ! Y z'étaient armés de terribles lances-boulettes dernière génération ! Non, franchement, là vous m'avez épaté, bande de gros nazes !!!!

by Bigeard at April 30, 2005 12:35 PM

oh my, I'm loosing my french, even if i'm one of them. Bush Fucker is a good example of hate. like some americans do or chinese, japanese, australian, indians... At least france is liike any contry in the world.. we've got assholes. I'm not very proud of it. but most of the things here are good example of ignaorance and lack of will. will to understand or just be human?
which country had never made a fuckin' history mistake?
fench in algeria, africa, and mururoa(sorry for the spelling..), Usa in many wars.
Of course we all thanks americans of the WWII generation for their help. but it doesn't mean that america is a holy place.
Just stop spitting on each other faces and let's take a look at our own cultures to improve it.
Makes me sad to see so much hate and ignorance from both sides.

PS: ca sert a rien d'envenimer les choses avec des insultes. on utilise les meme armes que ce que l'on souhaites arreter.

by starfok at May 23, 2005 10:48 PM

Yes, I'm agree with starfok. Stop it, please… This website is too stupid…
(Starfok, you speak french very well ! Bravo !)

by TÉTACLAK at May 24, 2005 11:06 AM

As a French citizen, all I can say is that in both countries, people swallow what TV and their neighbor tell them way too easily and this is how we end up fighting with ridiculous arguments. We all have our rednecks, we all have our smart people. France is not as arrogant and intellectual as it is conveyed and the USA are not as retarded and ignorant as it is conveyed either. Unfortunately, Americans still think that the French read Sartre and talk about existentialism non-stop and the French still think that Americans gobble hamburgers and donuts non-stop. Both are sad caricatures that put us in opposition, but they however remain two of the countries where it's best to live on the planet - like most countries with a strong ego for some reason. Figure it out. :)

by Christopher at July 17, 2005 8:09 AM

Well Chris, I am sorry to tell you that most of the stereotypes that are associated with the United States are in fact true. Americans are ignorant fat hamburger sucking bastards. we have come to grips with that....well some of us. Personally i really didnt like your country too much, too many beggers. That may be just something to do with being in Paris or it may be that thats common, I dont know. Anyway, half ......no, more like a quarter of the American public is educated enough to even understand what the hell is going on in the world and of them, only about a third are even educated enough to make solid opinions. So if i were you i would put much into what the "people of the United States" think. Most that are asked dont know anything. And to respond to a couple of people with messages further up, there was one dude from Iceland that said he and his friends like to beat up American Turists, all i can say is that i would avoid doing that to the hardcore rednecks from the deep southern states, That is assuming that any of them are actually able to srounge up enough money to actully take a trip, know where Iceland is, and to actully know that its is not infact covered by ice. Also to another guy, and probably alot of other people around the world, not all of us voted for Bush. Note, it is infact comfermed that Bush lost the 2000 election and was only able to win this last one by only a few million votes. It was like 50 Million to 53 million or something. I hope the world like Clinton, couse if Hillary runs, well have the other one in office too.

by Boy9988 at August 17, 2005 2:27 AM


Halliburton got most of contracts in Irak

Halliburton overbilling - http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4251870/

Cheney interest in Halliburton - http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2003/09/26/politics/main575356.shtml

No Weapon of Mass Destruction in IRAK Since 1991 http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,134766,00.html

No relation between Hussein and Ben Laden http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=04/06/17/1436250

Bush Family tree http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,100474,00.html

Bush God against Hussein God - A new crusade

Bye try to read for size

by Feyd at August 18, 2005 9:13 PM


Halliburton got most of contracts in Irak

Halliburton overbilling - http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4251870/

Cheney interest in Halliburton - http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2003/09/26/politics/main575356.shtml

No Weapon of Mass Destruction in IRAK Since 1991 http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,134766,00.html

No relation between Hussein and Ben Laden http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=04/06/17/1436250

Bush Family tree http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,100474,00.html

Bush God against Hussein God - A new crusade

Bye try to read for size

by Feyd at August 18, 2005 9:13 PM

Fuck usa bastards fuck you all

by joe at August 24, 2005 10:24 AM


Et oui , je suis français . Est -il necessaire de faire un site anti français?

Je viens de lire le grand discours de notre chers monsieurs effenheimer.

Il oublierais que trés souvent les Etats Unis ont pris partis des guerres pour leurs propres développement même celle de WW2 que pour l'irak.

De plus ce chers monsieurs effenheimer oublie aussi qu'il y a une fuite des cerveaux Européen vers les Etats Unis.
DONC lorsqu'il dit que les Etats Unis ont beaucoup de cerveaux. CES cerveaux n'oubliont pas son aussi européen ,russe ou autre.

La france a le droit de choisir .Je dirais même Cette veille france en a marre des guerres.
Lors les jeunes Etats Unis réfléchissaient avant de faire une guerre.

by Bladehell at September 21, 2005 3:27 PM

The biggest terrorists in the world are A.Sharon and his stinky Zionist gang which dominates USA policy.
The shabby little puppet Geoges is in their hands.

by Truth at September 25, 2005 6:08 AM

Effenheimer est un gros con xénophobe, ça, c'est clair ! Un cow-boy, un vaniteux, un prétentieux, une loque, une salope… tout ce que tu veux ! Personellement, je n'ai rien à foutre de ces mecs là : je les laisse barboter dans leur merde tranquillement en attendant qu'ils s'y noient.

Cependant, l'Amérique ne se résume certainement pas ça (j'espère !) !
Pour être franc, je n'ai pas beaucoup d'affection pour le système politique américain, beaucoup trop libéral, beaucoup trop branché sur le pognon et l'inéglaité, beaucoup trop moraliste, beaucoup trop pute… mais cela n'empêche pas que de nombreux yankees (affectueusement :-) ) soient des gens très symphatiques (mais j'ai toujours eu une dent contre les Texans, je ne les supporte pas !)

Liberté, Égalite, Fraternité

Vive la République !
À bas les Tyrans !

by TÉTACLAK at October 7, 2005 5:30 PM

Cher Tétaclak, pour avoir voyagé aux Etats Unis en 1984, je peux te dire que les Francais n'y étaient pas les bienvenus. Que ce soit à New York, en Californie ou ailleurs. Je ne parle même pas du Texas, ou effectivement j'ai pu expérimenter leur très haut niveau de connerie. La francophobie, quelquefois aggressive, (loueur de voiture à Dallas) y était palpable dans beaucoup d'endroits. Mais ce qui m'à le plus frappé, c'est l'ignorance CRASSE de l'étatsunien moyen pour tout ce qui touche à la France. Pour ces gros cons, c'était encore l'image de la baguette, du béret, et j'en passe et des meilleures. Ils croyaient qu'on en était encore en 1944.
Si la plupart des Francais savaient cela, ils arrêteraient de s'abreuver de toutes les conneries US au cinéma, à la télé ou ailleurs.
Pour ma part, j'ai été ecoeuré par cet endroit dans lequel je ne remettrais plus jamais les pieds. Ce sont des jaloux de la culture et de l'histoire de la France. De toutes facons, leur déclin est en très bonne voie, et de moins en moins de gens sont intéréssés par les USA. Il y à tellement d'endroits beaucoup plus passionnants et enthousiasmants à visiter de par le monde, notamment en Asie. La Chine par exemple, la première puissance mondiale de demain (pour bientôt) qui, je le souhaite, fera fermer leur sale gueule à tous ces porcs yankees engraissés au hamburger.

by SOLOGNOT at October 8, 2005 1:07 PM

the french are the worst fucks in the world! Their cultur sucks, their lifestyle is awful and they stink. Bad service, bad hygene and dumb asses that sums it up quite nicely!

Let us hope France goes down the drain just like it deserves! And it is doing so even without anybody helping! yeah

by kaifupaddy at November 2, 2005 4:54 AM

The biggest arrogant and stinky jealous race on the planet: ANGLOSAXON SHIT.

by BABAR at November 6, 2005 4:16 PM

Je suis francaise et fiere de l etre , je n avais jamais vu tant de haine contre les francais , apprenez a nous connaitre avant de dire tant de choses stupides , l amerique ni les americains ne sont pas le centre du monde.
Vive la fraternité , au chiotte l'antisemitisme.

by A french woman at November 13, 2005 9:24 AM

Bravo à Tetaklac et a Solognot pour leur "discours". Je voudrais simplement ajouter que j ai remarqué dans les differentes lettres des americains xenophobes une haine contre les francais extrement floue , j ai du mal a savoir si c'est de la pure jalousie , ou une orgie d Americain inculte . Cher americains il serait temps de savoir que le monde d'aujourdui n'est plus la gueguerre d'avant . Personne n'est parfait et surment pas les americains.
Mais ils ne faut pas croire que tout les ameriains pensent de cette maniere meme si c'est tentant !
Aurélie , 16 ans , francaise .

by Aurélie at November 13, 2005 9:41 AM

Wow, tons of comments! My favourite was while searching ebay, I found

WWII French Rifle; only dropped once.

by Clonereject1138 at November 13, 2005 11:22 AM

Wow, tons of comments ! I add one: i think that most of us'ians brains are made of hamburger.

by GAZOLINE FUCKER at November 13, 2005 4:22 PM

I am an American! I can hardly believe that i sat here and read all of this personal ideaological bullshit from a bunch of wannabe American free so called "people". You call yourself intellectuals and all seem to be pointing your dirty little fingers in the wrong direction. I would suggest that you take a long hard look at your own countrys and your own personal lifes and try to figure out "What great fucking things have I done for humanity lately"? You say "fuck america"! I say "FUCK WITH AMERICA" ASSHOLE"!!!! Furthermore Even with the help of your so called allies and their friends could you ever begin to understand what being a part of such a great nation would be like. Not to fret though. We will be comming to a town neer YOU! GOD BLESS "SILENT ONE"

by one American at November 19, 2005 5:33 PM

The most paranoid people on earth:US'IANS.

by DROOPY at November 22, 2005 5:56 PM

lol come in france and leave here before saying that you hate french people. I m french, my english suck but i do my best (maybe you can answer me in french?). You re afraid by us because you doesn t know us. If you make your opinion only with the media, i think that your life is a poor life. You know that what you see on TV is not always the real life. Then come in france and leave here one month, maybe two, and then after you can speak. And to finish, the only guy who seems to be "superior" it s you when you write this "conneries"(maybe it s your 25% of french chromosomes who are writing lol)

by frenchie at December 6, 2005 1:09 PM

Please stop talking about french or german or which other country like you are doing!
You are disanpointed because a few coutries are disagree with your way of think but you cant believe that some countries think the same things about you.
Please leave your head from your ass and see what is happening aroud you!
Moreover, please, do not forget that the old continent "europe" is your mother, please could you say thanks to English, irish, german, french or even chinese who have made your county. Your can even say thank to Christpophe Colombe or other spanish or Portuguese salors.

And at least say a great thank's to indian!

Now your say that french have forgotten that us army have helped the France during the 2Nd war, but dont' forget that thank's to the war you became the first economic power of the world, so you did not loose everyting there!
ou say that French or German are affraid about the war, but you don't know anything about war! Europe have a huge history about war, please do not forget that when Indian were still free, europe was under a lot of war. And Now europe is bored about war europe know that we can loose everything during a war.
I'have read things about culture but the more inportant is history. It's from history that we can find solutions for cotamporan problems
I went to usa once, it was a nice trip, nice people and stupid people, like in France or germany or spain or which other country. But now i'm very disanpointed when i read what you say. I'm wondering where is the amercian dream when i saw that!

why GW bush did not sign the kyoto protocol ?

by Lerig at December 12, 2005 3:25 PM

I'have forgetten, when G.W Bush will make war against storms ???

by lerig at December 12, 2005 3:42 PM

I was really shocked when I read what some of you wrote about not only France but THE French (as if generalizations led us anywhere or meant anything) and I would definitely like to ask you a few questions: have you EVER been to France ? and how many French people did you talk to (if you ever did)? One last question: what language did you speak in?? You think we're arrogant but most Americans (see, no generalization) only speak English (and not that well either, just check the grammatical and spelling mistakes on that website). Anyway I think for the majority of you writing, you're just trying to find a scape goat and if you know nothing really about the French, then you can fantasize all you want, no real fact will be able to stop you. I think it's pathetic, this little website dedicated to xenophoby. Don't you have anything better to do than spread filth and hatred?
I'm not saying we're perfect but you could find something wrong with every single people; so let's not fool ourselves, your anti-French attitude is similar to racist redneck talk except it's much more popular and not censored by political correctness.
I really enjoyed the way Effenheimer put some French words here and there just to show he knew what he was talking about... especially when you consider that he could not spell one word correctly...
Now about pseudo-historical references... What exactly do you know about WWII, except that the French army was utterly and completely defeated by the Germans in less than two months? Ever heard of the Resistance? Now the few of you who actually have a little bit of culture will say it's a French myth, and I won't disagree. But you CANNOT judge a people on things their great grandparents and grandparents did when they had nothing to eat and were given the choice between siding with the enemy or letting their family starve. Besides if you insist on taking that road then let's talk about things the US did. Ready? The list is long. You think Saddam was so bad you had to invade Irak, right? Yet the majority of the population was not suffering directly from his tyranny but from the embargo your government has inflicted on them for more than ten years. They were under the tyranny of an evil man but still you had to punish THEM. I hope you don't think the embargo affected Saddam more than it did the population... The Irakis were the ones who directly suffered from starvation and how can you fight an illegitimate leader when you don't even get to eat properly??
How about Cuba?? Castro is a dictator, you all know that, still the population is yet again suffering from the American embargo. WHY? Well, because almost half a century earlier they had a revolution to expropriate extremely rich landowners who were exploiting the poor, and who were naturally supported by the American government, that's why you dumb ass. They had to be punished: defying the almighty 'nation under God'? Now that could not, and still cannot, be tolerated. Amen
How about those plethorian bombs you left back in Vietnam? Do children really deserve to see parts of their bodies being blown up because their parents and grand parents wanted communism instead of capitalism? Maybe it doesn't matter because they're vietnamese...
At last but not least, the Iraki war... Hmm... hmm... you think the Irakis are better off now than they were before? Ask the women! Saddam was secular and so was his dictatorship and that meant women did not have to hide themselves behind veils. They could wear make up, and dress almost the way they wanted. It was no democracy but they had much more freedom than they have now. Because of the war the Islamists have taken control: men stand in front of universities to check that women are wearing the veil and not make up; they're trying to reduce their former emancipation and the American soldiers can do nothing about that. You have opened Pandora's box. By getting rid of evil one you've unleashed evil 2 and the one evil you were supposed to fight originally for that matter(namely the Islamists)!! How's that for a paradox?

Now don't get me wrong, France has done its part of bad things too, but the big difference is we ACKNOWLEDGE it, and (at least officially) we don't go around intervening in other people's business and thinking WE know what's best for them! Moreover when confronted to our mistakes and shameful past we don't shut our eyes and dismiss the whole thing by suggesting that we did more good than bad. But I guess you're always going to find some ignorant assholes who will believe because he's that's colour, that religion and that nationality he's better than everyone else.

by christelle at December 26, 2005 7:08 PM

Très bons arguments, chère Christelle, mais peine perdue. Car 90 % des étatsuniens ne sont qu'un ramassis de grons cons incultes et nombrilistes, et ne valent même pas la peine que l'on s'intéresse à eux. Je pense que la meilleure solution est de les ignorer et de faire comme s'ils n'existaient pas. Il y à tellement d'autres endroits infiniment plus passionnants à visiter de par le monde.

by MURAT at December 27, 2005 4:37 PM

Have a look on USA HATERS HOMEPAGE. Very funny.

by KARL at December 29, 2005 4:53 PM

you are fat,ugly, wear a stupid hat..well..fuck you too.

by gregory at December 31, 2005 10:04 AM

Eh beh dis donc!
At least french and americans are hilarious when insulting each others.
Les mecs, vous m'avez bien fait marrer, meme si certaines interventions m'ont franchement donné envie de faire couler mon venin ici.
Mais ce site bugge, quelle merde

by jenny at January 10, 2006 9:38 PM

It so comics.... Look how ignorants most of this people is...

by OhFoque at January 18, 2006 11:21 AM

I'm very sad cause I'm half french half american, the french stinks, they have no more culture, their national sport is to be on strike, their army is a piece of shit, they could not defend a rat hole.

So if you can avoid going in this country do so, they hate americans because they are very jealous.

I will vote for Bush if he decide to bomb the place, but leave the americans cemetery clean.

by Scott kennedy at January 24, 2006 8:03 AM

I didn't know that this forum was open to mongoloids. Youessay, a country of mongoloids, ruled by king mongoloid georges. Soon, it's China which is going to clean the world by bombing youessay, this parasite terrorist state. So, the world will be a better place.

by KARLOS at January 25, 2006 3:43 PM

My dear Scott Kennedy, you and your fuckin' big hass, do you know that you're a fucker ??? For us, it's easy to fuck you, man !
You will vote for Bush, this fuckin' texan cow-boy plein de merde, avec sa gueule en tête de bite de babouin ???
On vous baise, tu piges ça, tête de merde ????
Americxan culture ? Just Mc Donald, man, not like us ! Your sports ? Bitches sports !!! Your army ? A fuckin' de saloperie de merde !!!!!!

by BIGEARD at February 3, 2006 7:33 PM

You have McDonalds, KFC, Pizza Hut, Subway too I'd wager - in your country BIGEARD. Your people are walking around wearing Nike, Reebok, and Tommy (parp)! You have American movies playing at your cinemas as we speak. Heh... American culture indeed!

by Ex Crimson Guard NCO at February 6, 2006 9:04 AM

This anti French hystéria is a very curious thing in the Anglosaxon sphere. I bet that most of these ignorant assholes have never travel in France. Their blind incult hateful minds are filled by rubbishes as Fox news. Get a life and try to get out of New Mexico or Arizona, if you can.

by GROSSE SCHWEINE at February 7, 2006 4:21 AM

espèce d'idiot

by pierre at February 11, 2006 1:19 PM

Francais = larves + collabos.

by GOOFY at February 11, 2006 3:50 PM

FUCK THE USA!!!!!! Fuck this country inhabited by millions of morons dominated by church fanatics, still having trouble in dealing with evolution two centuries later!! FUCK THE FRENCH, those fuck head people for whom life is their social security bullshit system!! AND FUCK YOU STUPID DICK READER!!!!!!!!!! And fuck this stupid language as well !!
I feel better :-))

by FuckYOU at February 12, 2006 12:33 PM

hey stupid american, if the frenche didn't help you for the independance war,you will be british
You think the french eat frog and have'berret', it's totaly false, we are like you( cars, tv , internet...)but with a brain
fuck cowboys( homosexuals)
I will go to USA this summer and I will fuck all your girls
and I fight with all asshole like you ( do you know muay thay)

by aurelién at February 19, 2006 10:06 AM

sorry if i don't write english very well but I try

by aurélien at February 19, 2006 10:08 AM

That's so French, you post an apology after going ape on some New Worlders! Heh heh heh! Classic.

That's gotta be a sore point for Americans and Englishmen- the accent thing. I can't think of anything worse than the slurring zhu zhu zhu of the French shit-spiel. Yet most English and American women lap it up 'til their tongues go raw. It's such a terrible accent too, the French accent, it's so... fucking... leary. And... you can't help but sound as thick as pig shit when you stumble around in the English language. (See: The Matrix. French character: "Cos, and iffect. I dur-ank tuh much why-n, ah-n now ah nid tuh go tik a piss.)

Some of our women need their heads checking. You don't get French women going weak when they hear an American blasting out yee-haw's, or Englishmen offering how-do-you-fucking-do's. Bah!

by Ex Crimson Guard NCO at February 20, 2006 11:03 AM

Putain, mais cet enculé qui se fout de notre gueule commence vraiment à me casser les couilles !!!!
Regardez sa gueule, à ce connard ! Comme beaucoup de Ricains, c'est qu'une lavette, un con, mais avec une grande gueule !!!
J'ai bien envie de foutre le feu à leur sale pays de merde, Texas en premier !!!

by BIGEARD at February 22, 2006 10:01 AM

Oh, come on, men ! You're too stupid, all you ! Americans like Frenchs ! Shame on you !!!

by TÉTACLAK at February 22, 2006 10:03 AM

Concitoyens de la République Française et de tout autre état européen : courage ! Nous n'en avons plus pour très longtemps d'avoir à supporter la botte américaine sur nos têtes, en tous cas si nous nous décidons enfin à avancer vite en matière d'Europe ! Notre continent est plus peuplé et potentiellement plus riche que le leur (eh oui ! car si tous les PIB européens sont ajoutés, ils dépassent largement celui des cow-boys !), alors ne perdons pas de temps ! Il faut créer un gouvernement Européen qui puisse enfin imposer notre continent uni comme force respectable sur la scène international. Béjin et Washington ravalleraient leurs moqueries et nous serions enfin capables de leur tenir tête ! Car l'Union fait la force !
Et nous n'en sommes pas si loin ! Airbus, EADS, la communauté de défense européenne, etc… sont autant de preuves que l'intégration est en marche !

by Bébert at February 22, 2006 10:24 AM

im french, u numnut!! fuck the english!!!

by lsdfkjn at February 22, 2006 3:24 PM

we reely didnt meen wut we said..:) im an idiot!
i no, forgiv me...

by lsdfkjn at February 22, 2006 3:28 PM

Yoooouuuuu knob jockeys! Tch 'n' pffft! *spits*

by Ex Crimson Guard NCO at February 24, 2006 12:47 AM

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by TORE TOIVICCO at February 24, 2006 6:23 PM

HEY All who Hate The GOOD ol' USA , I'll tell you what,
Come on over to My Country and Burn "Old Glory" my Flag,... The Stars and Stripes, And see if you don't get a good old fashoned ass beatin'
Talk all you want about how BAD America is. but you know what???
It shows two things #1 your jealousy towards the Greatest Nation on Earth The United States of America (we Got FIFTY of em' by the way) and #2 your Ignorance and Intolorance towards something different

by indabush at March 2, 2006 10:34 PM

Again and again the same craps. USA, the greatest nation in the world, the greatest country, blablablaaaa... You should more travel and get down from your big cloud. Your dream is so pathetic. Europe and China are the new superpowers. And in Europe, we are not jealous of a place without roots and history. Most of Us'ians are a flock of close minded and ignorant fucks.

by Attila at March 4, 2006 8:40 AM

I'm French and I'm currently studying a year in the states. Knowing both countries, i found that whereas the anti-American sentiment is directed against the US government, the antifrench sentiment is directed against the French people. sO i THINK that the antifrench sentiment is much more violent and deeply racist.

by albiche at March 4, 2006 5:53 PM

ya. im sure that makes slot of sense. wen ur french!! haha-like me, were alot smarter.

by IKHFBS at March 6, 2006 12:57 PM

hey im latvian. lets talk about me and my fellow latvians bak at home...

by moithelatvian at March 6, 2006 12:59 PM

the Frenchmen like to be loathed and they've got rippin reasons

by THRASHER at March 21, 2006 4:03 PM

the french can suck my ass! They're plain RUDE to ANYONE that goes there that speaks english, and this happened way before 9-11. They lost their status as a "world power" after WWII, the world turned to english as an international language, and they've been pissed ever since.

My grandfather died in WWII, in Normandy, "liberating" these french fucks, and I put that in parantheses because masses of their own women were fucking the Nazi's because they were the "cocktail of the hour". At least one would think there would be a little bit of consideration, fucking de Gaulle wouldn't even agree to let Eisenhower make a speech on French radio after the liberation of France before himself, and asking the french people to cooperate. We should've left them to the fucking Nazi's!

I just wait until france gets themselves into a "pickel", then I want to see the U.S. veto their ass at the U.N. And it's coming, the french students are revolting NOW, in the millions! In the history of the world there has never been a military that has been so in-ept as the french, they know this, the rest of the world knows this, it's the ONLY reason why the U.S. doesn't take them seriously.....they're not a country to be taken as such!

by ralph at April 4, 2006 10:51 PM

to johnnie darko!

Well of course we only got into WWII after Pearl Harbor, they attacked us afterall! It wasn't like the English got into it because of their "goodwill", they knew damn well that Hitlers intent was european domination at a minimum, and after france, it was you, the English, that were the target!

Keep this in mind, England "colonizes" countries, you go there to conquer them and impose your will on them, before, during, and after conflict. Your history shows that you "take over" nations, you certainly don't "liberate" them and let them control their own destiny. Just ask the Indians, south africans, and even americans. Thank god america kicked your tea-totalling asses back across the "pond" with your tail between your legs, or who knows what would've became of today's world. Everyone would be paying tax from Brazil to Bangladesh to Queen Cunt of England.

If it wasn't for the Americans, as is the case for the French, England would've been conquered, in relatively short order. Those can make their arguements for the Ruskies, but it was the entrance of the Americans that turned the tide of WWII!! IF the Japs hadn't bombed Pearl Harbor, just think of what would've happened. It was Hitler's greatest mistake in allowing it.

I'm quite aware, and can empathize with how some britans feel, afterall, you were a world power, and since WWII have been reduced to that of another american state, and not even the most powerful state, taking a backseat at a minimum to the state of California!

by homer at April 4, 2006 11:16 PM


by FEUQBOUCHE at April 5, 2006 3:21 PM

One more time, another incult US'ian jerk spread his little antifrench hysterical vomit. So, this poor Ralph consider the French as military inept. This mongoloid should open more often history books. French military history is one of the most, if not the most, glorious and prestigious in the world. Through 2000 years of French history, there are many more victories than defeats. All the well informed historians know this. US'ians were still in the balls of their European ancestors when France was a superpower. But i'am not surprised, because most of US'ians are a bunch of incult rednecks and primitive mongers with any knowledge of the world. They think that the world history started with them. Your little existence is only 200 years. Your history is so shabby, so seedy. And it's the point. US'ians have always been jealous of the French because you're a mongrel race coming from Europe, with no roots and history. And you really start to bore us with this prehistorical shit of WW2. Nobody cares anymore in Europe. If you miss so much war, why don't you try in your place? It could be funny. The poor Ralph's dad is dead in Normandy in 1944 ? R.I.P. I recall to mister Ralph that during WW2, French casualties were 600000 (Soldiers and civilians), in a largely damaged country. Twice the US casualties of this war on all fronts. And in WW1, 1,3 million french soldiers were killed, on a population of 40 millions, fighting during 4 years (1914/1918). I ike the way US'ians consider the French as military inepts, when they came only at the end of the wars (1917 and 1944), and claimed for victory. We have seen how the US troops were "efficient" in Vietnam and now in Iraq. You know how to make war only by dropping bombs from 15000 feets. Your brains are totally washed by piles of trash as Fox news. You're immature crybabies and i pity you to be so dumb.

by ROLAND at April 6, 2006 5:20 PM

Vietnam??? LMAO...it was you, the french, who just got their asses kicked out of there!!!

It's certainly not americans who are jealous of the french, you can rest assured of that, its the french that are jealous of the americans without question or hesistation!!! You USED to be a world power...fucking centuries ago!! Your language USED to be spoken as a 2nd language in many countries.....TODAY, and at least for the last 50 years its ENGLISH. The U.S. not only dwarfs france on every economic scale but in military capability. When experts make comparisons to the United States, whether it be on economies or military might, capability, etc, they MUST make comparisons between the U.S. and the entire fucking continent of EUROPE....LMAO!! And we all know just how "cohesive" you europeans are don't we?? 20+ different countries with different languages, each with their own agenda but form the E.U., like now you're going to compete with the U.S.

Buck up Frenchy, if the average american has anything to say about it, the U.S. will fuck France 10 ways from Sunday, and there will be NOTHING you'll be able to do about it!!!!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! THE FUCKING FRENCH, COMICAL LITTLE GUYS YOU ARE, EVER SINCE THE INVENTION OF THE RIFLE YOUR MILITARIES HAVE BEEN COMICAL AT BEST!!! STICK WITH MAKING BREAD AND PASTRIES.....LEAVE THE REST UP TO US!

by ralph at April 8, 2006 12:16 AM

What a pity Ralph! Fuck the french because their army is not as powerful as the US army... Get a brain man! Try to think for yourself once! You make me remember those kids comparing their micro-dicks! Evolve, your brain is still 2 years old!!

There's good reasons why to fuck those french! They are the more morally anti-individual people I know! (but truely egotic in practice) In their state of mind, the State is a god which acts like a idealist father in a paternalistic and decadent way. Freedom has as much meaning for them that philosophy has for Ralph, none!

Fuck the socialist paradise, Fuck the individual nightmare, Fuck the french!!! Let them die slowly...

For the record, I'm french.

by FuckThem at April 8, 2006 5:53 PM

No, not only that "fuck them", but basically for the deep-seated hatred that MOST french have for americans. They just can't stand us, and we were a major part of their own liberation from the Nazi's. Pretty ungrateful if you ask me. I'm not saying it's not ok for them, or anyone, to disagree with the U.S. gov't. Hell, I don't agree with a LOT of shit they do, and I'm american, but to veto us in the U.N. after 9-11, that's disgraceful. And when the light of day was finally shed, we see that it was the French, and the Germans, and the Ruskies, that had BIG financial interests in the U.S. not going to war in Iraq and kicking Saddam's ass out. That it was THEM that were selling weapons to Iraq, and today we're even seeing where the Russians were giving Saddam info. into American military intentions....albeit was incorrect, LOL.

Fuck the French for anytime someone goes to France if he doesn't know how to speak French, and you speak english, a large percentage of the bastards pretend they don't know how to speak it, and look at you in disgust. The French need to get over the fact that they're participation in world dominance ended centuries ago, and today the only true superpower is the U.S. It could be a helluva lot worse ya know. God forbid the Chinese ever start to educate all their people and better the conditions of hundreds of millions that are living as slaves, because if that happens, heaven help us.

by ralph at April 10, 2006 11:00 AM


"French casualties were 600,000 (military, civilian)"

Don't know where you're getting your information, but the REAL numbers are as follows;

U.S. military deaths 300,000
U.S. wounded 300,000
French military deaths 250,000
French wounded 350,000
French civilians killed 270,000

And that civilian figure, can largely be accounted for because of the "pussies" that the french gov't. and military truly is....


"France: Like Britain, declared war on Germany on September 1, 1939. After invasion by Germany in May 1940, the so-called Vichy government signed an armistice in the following month that consigned the northern half of the country to German occupation but this became a full occupation in late 1942 as pressure from the Allies mounted. "

LMAO....you pussies gave HALF of your frickin' country to those Nazi bastards!!!! You just GAVE it to them, without a fucking fight, without nothing. "Oh, just take half of our country, just please, let us live in peace in the south half, and please don't kill us". What a bunch of pansies....yeah, military fucking wonder-child you fucking french....LMAO. What's that joke?? What did the french do when the Nazi's showed up?? "Table for 100,000???" You pussies make me laugh.

by ralph at April 10, 2006 11:17 AM

declare WAR on a country....and EIGHT, that's right, EIGHT months later give them half your country.....jesus, what a military force!! What was it that our friend Roland above said??? "French military history is ONE of the most, if NOT THE MOST prestigous in the world". LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL Literally, ROTFLMAO!!!!

by ralph at April 10, 2006 11:28 AM

Oh shit, I was WRONG!!! After the German invasion in May of 1940, the French signed an "armistice" that "consigned" the northern HALF of the country to German occupation......THE NEXT MONTH!!!!! OMG, WHAT TO FUCK IS THAT??? and ROLAND....you should be a fucking ashamed of yourself for having such literal pussies as brethren....the next month??? Really, that joke about a table for 100,000....that's no fucking joke, pretty much spot-fucking-on!!

by ralph at April 10, 2006 1:20 PM

And an other anti-French article. Funny.
It's funny because in France nobody gives a fuck about you, fools. We helped you in the first war in Irak, remember ? No ? Ow... what a shame...
Some things about army and history in France.
Use a map. You will see that France has thousands of common borders with other countries in Europe (which has always been a land of war, not like some countries like America).
During more than two thousand years, France have had to fight against powerful invaders. It wasn't so easier than exterminate Indian tribes with Winchester Rifles or to counter attack against Santa Anna who fucked America well in Alamo.
Let speak about American army. You helped Europe in WW2, but without UK troops and resistants all over Europe, Nazis would have fucked you. In WW1, America came when the war was over...who are the cowards here ? You helped nobody in WW1, but you gave money to Europe, and you earned a lot of gold (3/4 of the world stock at the end of that war). Europe paid America for nothing.
Some fools like the caw-brains here or like the bastards of fuckfrance.com think that French army had only defeats. It’s funny how stupid you are. Just have a look to the other European countries. Which one has the biggest territory ? ..... France.
Just remember that in Europe, it's not like America, people had to fight for a village, for a city, for a region. How a land of cowards could have the biggest territory in Europe ? How a land of coward could have had the second colonial empire after UK ?
So shut your mouth about our history.

An other thing. Some journalists in America speak about the hate of "anglosaxons" in France. Bullshits ! French are friends with the UK, and with americans, we just thought that attacking Irak would be a mess, and we were right. And a large majority of people all over the World (except some American fools well-represented here) like or love France, even in China, Vietnam, Algeria, etc. They just make fun with typically French absurdities.

So, you fools (when I say fools I mean the men who think thanks to Fox News, not all the Americans) say that you fuck the French, and my whole country. I answer that we don't give a fuck.
Continue to insult us while we don't care. France is powerful enough to piss on your faces, and remember that when one French flag is destroyed, hundred American flags are destroyed. Meditate that, open an History book and watch other channels like Fox or CNN.

I'm 18, I'm French, I don't speak english very well but I think that it is easier for you to understand a bad english than a good french. Try to fuck me if you want, but remember. While you fools want to fuck the French (poor Lafayette), the entire World wants to fuck you.

Take care...
PS: I forgive you Ralph, try the Foreign Legion in France (it's a shame you can't try other corps, but you are not French lol), you will have some fun, for sure.

by Who fuck who at April 10, 2006 4:32 PM

This poor Ralph is realy a psychopath. The caricature of the ugly incult redneck US'ian. Always the same craps: USA the sole superpower blah blah blahhh. In terms of GBP the first economical power in the world is Europe, with a population of 450 millions. Only one example: AIRBUS the European aircraft maker which has smoked Boeing. And the EURO currency is stronger than Dollar.
We are not really surprised, because US'ians are a bunch of ignorant fucks, for most of them. 80% don't have passports, never travel, and have their brains full of grotesque and outdated stéréotypes about other peoples, specially the French.
And it'really funny to observe this obsession about WW2. For Europeans, these bullshits are antique stuff. Germans anf French are friends for more than 40 years, and the best economical partners. And if Ralph wants to talk about WW2, i can tell to him that the true winners of the war on the European front were soviet troops, with more than 20 millions casualties in four years of war against Germany. The German army was really defeated on the eastern front. And the US came only in 1944 to finish the job. Maybe, they partly supplied Staline troops with military equipments, but the biggest part of the work was made by Soviets.
My poor Ralph, as millions of your ignorant brothers, your brain is washed by Ruppert Murdoch dirty propaganda. Where have you seen that the French were hatefull against US'ians. Don't confound people and government. This paranoid attitude is truly amazing, frightening.
We can see the beautiful result in Iraq. 2500 US troops killed. And it's only the beginning. For the "sole superpower" in the world, it's rather suprising, no?

by HELMUT at April 10, 2006 6:42 PM

The plans of Whashington DC have been created by a french urbanist, Pierre Charles L'Enfant. He also created the Federal Hall in New York. The White House is a copy of two castles, one in Ireland, the other in France.
US'ians, you have nothing for you.
Your culture is European. Your history begin in 1492. Vietcongs fucked you and terrorists are doing the same in Irak. Your scientists come from Asia, Russia and Europe partly from France. Your economy depends of the willing of Chinese banks, Corean banks and Japanese banks. Latinos prefer Chavez than Bush and Toyota has smoked GMC.
In order to prevent you from suicide, you just have Hollywood and video games.
Nothing is more funny than hearing an American critisizing the financials interests Ralphy. On this ground you should shut up poor ignorant.
US army is useless, USA have so many debts that in war the ennemy will just have to stop buying CocaCola bottles to defeat you.
In ten years, Chineses will kick your ass, maby then you will need "ze french" to help your economy.
Oh yes I forgot, US Army gas masks are made in France, NASA's telescopic lenses too and French army organizes survival training in Djibouti (Africa) for US Soldiers.
How does it feel to have all the fingers of the world in the ass ?

by Nothing for you at April 10, 2006 9:13 PM

American Jews and the War on Iraq

Confronting Reality : The Protocols of the Learned Elders of Sion

This video will help open the eyes of patriots who still believe the media and government propaganda line that the conquest and subsequent occupation of Iraq was somehow in America's interests

–––––––––––-Partial list of Jews in the Bush Adminstration: (March 26, 2003)––––––––––––

Richard Perle

One of Bush's foreign policy advisors, he is the chairman of the Pentagon's Defense Policy Board. A very likely Israeli government agent, Perle was expelled from Senator Henry Jackson's office in the 1970's after the National Security Agency (NSA) caught him passing Highly-Classified (National Security) documents to the Israeli Embassy. He later worked for the Israeli weapons firm, Soltam. Perle came from one the above mentioned pro-Israel thinktanks, the AEI. Perle is one of the leading pro-Israeli fanatics leading this Iraq war mongering within the administration and now in the media.

Paul Wolfowitz

Deputy Defense Secretary, and member of Perle's Defense Policy Board, in the Pentagon. Wolfowitz is a close associate of Perle, and reportedly has close ties to the Israeli military. His sister lives in Israel. Wolfowitz came from the above mentioned Jewish thinktank, JINSA. Wolfowitz is the number two leader within the administration behind this Iraq war mongering.

Douglas Feith

Under Secretary of Defense and Policy Advisor at the Pentagon. He is a close associate of Perle and served as his Special Counsel. Like Perle and the others, Feith is a pro-Israel extremist, who has advocated anti-Arab policies in the past. He is closely associated with the extremist group, the Zionist Organization of America, which even attacks Jews that don't agree with its extremist views. Feith frequently speaks at ZOA conferences. Feith runs a small law firm, Feith and Zell, which only has one International office, in Israel. The majority of their legal work is representing Israeli interests. His firm's own website stated, prior to his appointment, that Feith "represents Israeli Armaments Manufacturer." Feith basically represents the Israeli War Machine. Feith also came from the Jewish thinktank JINSA. Feith, like Perle and Wolfowitz, are campaigning hard for this Israeli proxy war against Iraq.
Edward Luttwak

Member of the National Security Study Group of the Department of Defence at the Pentagon. Luttwak is reportedly an Israeli citizen and has taught in Israel. He frequently writes for Israeli and pro-Israeli newspapers and journals. Luttwak is an Israeli extremist whose main theme in many of his articles is the necessity of the U.S. waging war against Iraq.

Henry Kissinger

One of many Pentagon Advisors, Kissinger sits on the Pentagon's Defense Policy Board under Perle. For detailed information about Kissinger's evil past, read Seymour Hersch's book (Price of Power: Kissinger in the Nixon White House). Kissinger likely had a part in the Watergate crimes, Southeast Asia mass murders (Vietnam, Cambodia, Laos), Installing Chilean mass murdering dictator Pinochet, Operation Condor's mass killings in South America, and more recently served as Serbia's Ex-Dictator Slobodan Milosevic's Advisor. He consistently advocates going to war against Iraq. Kissinger is the Ariel Sharon of the U.S. Unfortunately, President Bush nominated Kissinger as chairman of the September 11 investigating commission. It's like picking a bank robber to investigate a fraud scandal.
Dov Zakheim

Under Secretary of Defense, Comptroller, and Chief Financial Officer (CFO) for the Department of Defense. He is an ordained rabbi and reportedly holds Israeli citizenship. Zakheim attended attended Jew’s College in London and became an ordained Orthodox Jewish Rabbi in 1973. He was adjunct professor at New York's Jewish Yeshiva University. Zakheim is close to the Israeli lobby.
Kenneth Adelman

One of many Pentagon Advisors, Adelman also sits on the Pentagon's Defense Policy Board under Perle, and is another extremist pro-Israel advisor, who supports going to war against Iraq. Adelman frequently is a guest on Fox News, and often expresses extremist and often ridiculus anti-Arab and anti-Muslim views. Through his hatred or stupidity, he actually called Arabs "anti-Semitic" on Fox News (11/28/2001), when he could have looked it up in the dictionary to find out that Arabs by definition are Semites.


I. Lewis Libby

Vice President Dick Cheney's Chief of Staff. The chief pro-Israel Jewish advisor to Cheney, it helps explains why Cheney is so gun-ho to invade Iraq. Libby is longtime associate of Wolfowitz. Libby was also a lawyer for convicted felon and Israeli spy Marc Rich, whom Clinton pardoned, in his last days as president.

Robert Satloff

U.S. National Security Council Advisor, Satloff was the executive director of the Israeli lobby's "think tank," Washington Institute for Near East Policy. Many of the Israeli lobby's "experts" come from this front group, like Martin Indyk.


Elliott Abrams

National Security Council Advisor. He previously worked at Washington-based "Think Tank" Ethics and Public Policy Center. During the Reagan Adminstration, Abrams was the Assistant Secretary of State, handling, for the most part, Latin American affairs. He played an important role in the Iran-Contra Scandal, which involved illegally selling U.S. weapons to Iran to fight Iraq, and illegally funding the contra rebels fighting to overthrow Nicaragua's Sandinista government. He also actively deceived three congressional committees about his involvement and thereby faced felony charges based on his testimony. Abrams pled guilty in 1991 to two misdemeanors and was sentenced to a year's probation and 100 hours of community service. A year later, former President Bush (Senior) granted Abrams a full pardon. He was one of the more hawkish pro-Israel Jews in the Reagan Administration's State Department.

Marc Grossman

Under Secretary of State for Political Affairs. He was Director General of the Foreign Service and Director of Human Resources at the Department of State. Grossman is one of many of the pro-Israel Jewish officials from the Clinton Administration that Bush has promoted to higher posts.

Richard Haass

Director of Policy Planning at the State Department and Ambassador at large. He is also Director of National Security Programs and Senior Fellow at the Council on Foreign Relations (CFR). He was one of the more hawkish pro-Israel Jews in the first Bush (Sr) Administration who sat on the National Security Council, and who consistently advocates going to war against Iraq. Haass is also a member of the Defense Department's National Security Study Group, at the Pentagon.
Robert Zoellick

U.S. Trade Representative, a cabinet-level position. He is also one of the more hawkish pro-Israel Jews in the Bush (Jr) Administration who advocated invading Iraq and occupying a portion of the country in order to set up setting up a Vichy-style puppet government. He consistently advocates going to war against Iraq.


Ari Fleischer

Official White House Spokesman for the Bush (Jr) Administration. Prominent in the Jewish community, some reports state that he holds Israeli citizenship. Fleischer is closely connected to the extremist Jewish group called the Chabad Lubavitch Hasidics, who follow the Qabala, and hold very extremist and insulting views of non-Jews. Fleischer was the co-president of Chabad's Capitol Jewish Forum. He received the Young Leadership Award from the American Friends of Lubavitch in October, 2001.

James Schlesinger

One of many Pentagon Advisors, Schlesinger also sits on the Pentagon's Defense Policy Board under Perle and is another extremist pro-Israel advisor, who supports going to war against Iraq. Schlesinger is also a commissioner of the Defense Department's National Security Study Group, at the Pentagon.

David Frum

White House speechwriter behind the "Axis of Evil" label. He lumps together all the lies and accusations against Iraq for Bush to justify the war.
Joshua Bolten

White House Deputy Chief of Staff, Bolten was previously a banker, former legislative aide, and prominent in the Jewish community.
John Bolton

Under-Secretary of State for Arms Control and International Security. Bolton is also a Senior Advisor to President Bush. Prior to this position, Bolton was Senior Vice President of the above mentioned pro-Israel thinktank, AEI. He recently (October 2002) accused Syria of having a nuclear program, so that they can attack Syria after Iraq. He must have forgotten that Israel has 400 nuclear warheads, some of which are thermonuclear weapons (according to a recent U.S. Air Force report).
David Wurmser

Special Assistant to John Bolton (above), the under-secretary for arms control and international security. Wurmser also worked at the AEI with Perle and Bolton. His wife, Meyrav Wurmser, along with Colonel Yigal Carmon, formerly of Israeli military intelligence, co-founded the Middle East Media Research Institute (Memri),a Washington-based Israeli outfit which distributes articles translated from Arabic newspapers portraying Arabs in a bad light.

Eliot Cohen

Member of the Pentagon's Defense Policy Board under Perle and is another extremist pro-Israel advisor. Like Adelman, he often expresses extremist and often ridiculus anti-Arab and anti-Muslim views. More recently, he wrote an opinion article in the Wall Street Journal openly admitting his rascist hatred of Islam claiming that Islam should be the enemy, not terrorism.

Mel Sembler

President of the Export-Import Bank of the United States. A Prominent Jewish Republican and Former National Finance Chairman of the Republican National Committee. The Export-Import Bank facilitates trade relationships between U.S. businesses and foreign countries, specifically those with financial problems.


Michael Chertoff

Assistant Attorney General for the Criminal Division, at the Justice Department.
Steve Goldsmith

Senior Advisor to the President, and Bush's Jewish domestic policy advisor. He also serves as liaison in the White House Office of Faith-Based and Community Initiatives (White House OFBCI) within the Executive Office of the President. He was the former mayor of Indianapolis. He is also friends with Israeli Jerusalem Mayor Ehud Olmert and often visits Israel to coach mayors on privatization initiatives.

Adam Goldman

White House's Special Liaison to the Jewish Community.
Joseph Gildenhorn

Bush Campaign's Special Liaison to the Jewish Community. He was the DC finance chairman for the Bush campaign, as well as campaign coordinator, and former ambassador to Switzerland.

Christopher Gersten

Principal Deputy Assistant Secretary, Administration for Children and Families at HHS. Gersten was the former Executive Director of the Republican Jewish Coalition, Husband of Labor Secretary, Linda Chavez, and reportedly very pro-Israel. Their children are being raised Jewish.

Mark Weinberger

Assistant Secretary of Housing and Urban Development for Public Affairs.

Samuel Bodman

Deputy Secretary of Commerce. He was the Chairman and CEO of Cabot Corporation in Boston, Massachusetts.

Bonnie Cohen

Under Secretary of State for Management.
Ruth Davis

Director of Foreign Service Institute, who reports to the Office of Under Secretary for Management. This Office is responsible for training all Department of State staff (including ambassadors).
Daniel Kurtzer

Ambassador to Israel.
Cliff Sobel

Ambassador to the Netherlands.

Stuart Bernstein

Ambassador to Denmark.

Nancy Brinker

Ambassador to Hungary

Frank Lavin

Ambassador to Singapore.

Ron Weiser

Ambassador to Slovakia.
Mel Sembler

Ambassador to Italy.

Martin Silverstein

Ambassador to Uruguay.

Lincoln Bloomfield

Assistant Secretary of State for Political Military Affairs.

Jay Lefkowitz

Deputy Assistant to the President and Director of the Domestic Policy Council.

Ken Melman

White House Political Director.
Brad Blakeman

White House Director of Scheduling.

––––––––––––––––––––-Presidential candidates -all jews !!!––––––––––––––––––––––––––

* Katharine Dukakis, wife of presidential candidate Michael Dukakis
* Barry Goldwater, presidential candidate (raised Episcopalian, father was born Jewish)
* John Kerry, presidential candidate and senator (raised Roman Catholic, grandfather was born Jewish (father was "fully Jewish" ethnically but grandfather had converted family before father was born, actual family name: Kohn)
* Janet Jagan, emigrated, became president of Guyana (1997-99)
* Joseph Lieberman, vice-presidential candidate
* Wesley Clark, presidential candidate, birth father was Jewish (family name Kanne). Clark's father died when Clark was a young boy, and he was eventually adopted by his stepfather. Clark has been a member of both Protestant and Catholic churches.


_______________Cabinet members and senior administration officials______________

* Judah Benjamin, confederate secretary of war (1861) & state (1862-64)
* Oscar Straus, secretary of commerce & labor (1906-09)
* Henry Morgenthau, Jr., secretary of the treasury (1934-45)
* Pierre Salinger, white house press secretary (1961-64) (Jewish father)
* James Schlesinger, CIA Director 1973 Secretary of Defense (1973-75) (Converted to Christianity)
* Henry Kissinger, national security advisor (1969-75), secretary of state (1973-77)
* W. Michael Blumenthal, secretary of the treasury (1977-79)
* Harold Brown, secretary of defense (1977-81)
* Philip Morris Klutznick, secretary of commerce (1980-1981)
* Robert Reich, secretary of labor (1993-97)
* John M. Deutch, Belgian-born CIA director (1995-96)
* Robert Rubin, secretary of the treasury (1995-99)
* Madeline Albright, secretary of state (1997-01) (raised Episcopalian by converted parents)
* Sandy Berger, national security advisor (1997-01)
* William Cohen, secretary of defense (1997-01) (Jewish father)
* Larry Summers, secretary of the treasury (1999-01)
* Ari Fleischer, white house press secretary (2001-03)
* Michael Chertoff, homeland security secretary (2005-)
* Leon Fuerth, national security advisor to Vice President Al Gore (1993-2001)
* Edward Levi, attorney general (1975-1977)


* David Levy Yulee, senator (D-FL: 1845-51, 1855-61)
* Judah Benjamin, senator (Whig-LA: 1853-61)
* Benjamin F. Jonas, senator (D-LA: 1879-85)
* Joseph Simon, senator (R-OR: 1898-03)
* Isidor Rayner, senator (D-MD: 1905-12)
* Simon Guggenheim, senator (R-CO: 1907-13)
* Herbert Lehman, senator (D-NY: 1949-57)
* Richard L. Neuberger, senator (D-OR: 1955-60)
* Jacob Javits, senator (R-NY: 1957-81)
* Ernest Gruening, senator (D-AK: 1959-69)
* Abraham Ribicoff, senator (D-CT: 1963-81)
* Howard Metzenbaum, senator (D-OH: 1974, 1976-95)
* Richard B. Stone , senator (D-FL: 1975-80)
* Edward Zorinsky, senator (D-NE: 1976-87)
* Rudy Boschwitz, senator (R-MN: 1978-91)
* Carl Levin, senator (D-MI: 1979-)
* Warren Rudman, senator (R-NH: 1980-93)
* Arlen Specter, senator (R-PA: 1981-)
* Frank Lautenberg, senator (D-NJ: 1982-01, 2003-)
* Jacob Hecht, senator (R-NV: 1983-89)
* John Kerry, senator (D-MA: 1985-) (father was "ethnically Jewish", but raised Catholic)
* Herb Kohl, senator (D-WI: 1989-)
* Joseph Lieberman, senator (D-CT: 1989-)
* Paul Wellstone, senator (D-MN: 1991-02)
* Dianne Feinstein, senator (D-CA: 1992-)
* Barbara Boxer, senator (D-CA: 1992-)
* Russ Feingold, senator (D-WI: 1993-)
* Ron Wyden, senator (D-OR: 1996-)
* Charles Schumer, senator (D-NY: 1999-)
* Norm Coleman, senator (R-MN: 2003-)


Prominent representatives only – for a full list see jewishvirtuallibrary.org.

* Francis Salvador, first Jewish member of a colonial legislature.
* Lewis Charles Levin, first Jewish representative (PA: 1845-51)
* Victor L. Berger, socialist (Soc-WI: 1911-13, 1919, 1923-29)
* Florence P. Kahn, first Jewish woman representative (R-CA: 1925-37)
* Allard K. Lowenstein, civil rights activist (D-NY: 1968-1970)
* Bella Abzug, feminist leader & gay rights activist (D-NY: 1971-77)
* Henry Waxman, liberal leader (D-CA: 1975-)
* Barney Frank, liberal, openly gay politician (D-MA: 1981-)
* Sam Gejdenson, (D-CT: 1981-2001)
* Tom Lantos, holocaust survivor (D-CA: 1981-)
* Gary Ackerman, (D-NY: 1983-)
* Bernie Sanders, independent (Ind-VT: 1991-)
* Jerrold Nadler, WTC district congressman during 9/11 (D-NY: 1992-)
* Adam Schiff (D-CA: 1998-)
* Debbie Wasserman Schultz (D-FL: 2004-)
* Peter Deutsch (D-FL: 1993-2005)
* Steve Israel (D-NY: 2000-)
* Rahm Emanuel, Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee Chair (2005-), (D-IL: 2003-)
* Means Tom, Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee Chair (2005-), (D-WI: 2003-)
* Ileana Ros-Lehtinen (R,Fla.), raised Catholic by a Jewish mother who converted to Cathol.


* Samuel D. Berger, ambassador to Korea (1961-64); Vietnam (1968-72)
* David B. Hermelin, ambassador to Norway (1997-2000)
* Martin Indyk, ambassador to Israel (1995-97, 2000-01)
* Dennis Ross, Middle East envoy
* Martin J. Silverstein, ambassador to Uruguay (2001-2005)


* Moses Alexander, governor of Idaho (D-ID: 1915-19)
* Simon Bamberger, governor of Utah (D-UT: 1917-21)
* Arthur Seligman, governor of New Mexico (D-NM: 1931-33)
* Julius L. Meier, governor of Oregon (Ind-OR: 1931-35)
* Henry Horner, governor of Illinois (D-IL: 1933-40)
* Herbert H. Lehman, governor of New York (D-NY: 1933-42)
* Ernest Gruening, territorial governor of Alaska (D-AK: 1939-53)
* Abraham Ribicoff, governor of Connecticut (D-CT: 1955-61)
* Samuel H. Shapiro, governor of Illinois (D-IL: 1968-69)
* Frank Licht, governor of Rhode Island (D-RI: 1969-73)
* Marvin Mandel, governor of Maryland (D-MD: 1969-77)
* Milton Shapp, governor of Pennsylvania (D-PA: 1971-79)
* Madeleine M. Kunin, governor of Vermont (D-VT: 1985-91)
* Neil Goldschmidt, governor of Oregon (D-OR: 1987-91)
* Bruce Sundlun, governor of Rhode Island (D-RI: 1991-95)
* Linda Lingle, governor of Hawaii (R-HI: 2002-)
* Ed Rendell, governor of Pennsylvania (D-PA: 2002-)


Prominent mayors/major cities only.

* Cincinnati: Bill Gradison (1971), Jerry Springer (1977-78)
* Las Vegas: Oscar Goodman (1999-)
* Louisville: Jerry E. Abramson (1985-98, 2002-)
* New York: Fiorello LaGuardia (1934-45; Jewish mother)
* New York: Abe Beame (1974-77)
* New York: Ed Koch (1978-89)
* New York: Michael Bloomberg (2002-)
* Philadelphia: Edward Rendell (1992–2000)
* Pittsburgh: Sophie Masloff (1988-1993)
* Portland, Oregon: Vera Katz (1992-2004)
* San Diego: Susan Golding (1992-2000)
* San Francisco: Adolph Sutro (1894-96), Dianne Feinstein (1976–88)
* Seattle: Bailey Gatzert (1875-76)
* Indianapolis: Stephen Goldsmith (1992-99)
* Miami: Harold Rosen (1975)


* Ben Bernanke, chairman of the Federal Reserve (2006-)
* Alan Greenspan, chairman of the Federal Reserve (1987-2006)
* Eugene Meyer, chairman of the Federal Reserve (1930-1933), president of the World Bank (1946)
* James Wolfensohn, president of the World Bank (1995-2005)
* Paul Wolfowitz, president of the World Bank (2005-)


* Elliott Abrams, current National Security Council staff candidate; an Assistant Secretary of State in the 1980s; enmeshed in Iran-Contra scandal
* Irving Kristol, one of the founders of the neoconservative movement, along with wife, Gertrude Himmelfarb
* Kitty Dukakis, wife of former Massachusetts Governor and 1988 Democratic Party Presidential candidate Michael Dukakis
* William Kristol, right-wing editor of The Daily Standard (son of Irving Kristol)
* Jean Lafitte, Buccaneer leader of the early 1800s.
* Monica Lewinsky, sex scandal intern, fashion designer
* Ken Mehlman, current Head of Republican National Committee
* Jack Abramoff, embattled lobbyist and GOP supporter
* Norman Podhoretz, one of the founders of the neoconservative movement, along with wife, Midge Decter
* Judith Steinberg Dean, wife of Democrat Howard Dean
* Kinky Friedman, 2006 Texas Independent Gubernatorial Candidate

–––––––––––––––––––––––––––-USA Military History -all jews –––––––––––––––––––––––

* Julius O. Adler, Brigadier General,(World War II) Commanded the 77th Infantry Division
* Jeremy Michael Boorda, Admiral, (Vietnam; Kosovo)
* Louis Bush, (Revolutionary war)
* Mathias Bush, (Revolutionary war)
* Solomon Bush, (Revolutionary war), Lieutenant Colonel, highest-ranking Jewish officer in the Continental Army
* Leopold Blumenberg, (Civil War)
* Wesley Kane Clark, former NATO commander during the Bosnian War (Jewish father, raised Baptist, converted to Catholicism)
* David Camden DeLeon, (Mexican War), "The Fighting Doctor", doctor under General Zachary Taylor, Congressional Citation
* LeRoy Diamond, (World War II, Pacific), Corporal, Navy Cross and Purple Heart
* Hyman Epstein, (World War II, Pacific), Army medical aide, killed in New Guinea after heroic rescues defying snipers
* David Nunez Cardozo, (American Revolution), South Carolina Grenadiers, led an assault on British-held Savannah, Georgia
* Leon Dyer, (Civil War, Mexican War, Seminole War), Colonel, post-Alamo volunteer, escorted Gen. Santa Anna to D.C.
* Herbert P. Grossman, Private First Class {World War II) Silver Star for gallantry in action at Leyte, Philippine Islands
* Levy Myers Harby, (War of 1812), Navy Captain, began military at 14
* Phineas Horowitz, (Civil War)
* Stanley H. Hyman, (Vietnam)
* Isadore S. Jachman, Sergeant U.S.A (World War II), Medal of Honor (posthumously) for actions saving his paratroop company during fighting in Flamierge, Belgium
* Jack H. Jacobs, Captain U.S.A (Vietnam) Medal of Honor recipient
* Leopold Karpeles,(Civil War) Sergeant, Congressional Medal of Honor for bravery and heroism
* Frederick Knefler, (Civil War)
* Melvin Krulewitch, Major General (World War II) First person to personally captured Japanese prisoners, first to fly the American flag on Japanese territory
* Jean Lafitte, Buccaneer leader who aided Gen. Jackson's defeat of British in thebattle of New Orleans in 1812 War.
* John L. Levitow, Sergeant U.S.AF (Vietnam) Medal of Honor recipient
* Uriah P. Levy, (War of 1812) First Jewish U.S. Admiral; ended the Practice of Flogging; bought, restored, and gave Montecello (Jefferson's home) as a gift to the American people. First Jewish Chapel at the United States Naval Academy named for him.
* Aaron Lopez, (American Revolution), Supplied transoceanic ships and coastal vessels to Navy
* David "Mickey" Marcus, (World War II), U.S. Army Lieutenant Colonel, West Point graduate, Divisional Judge Advocate, Division Commander, attended the "Big Five" meetings, volunteered to join D-Day airborne assault without formal training. Distinguished Service Cross, Bronze Star, and British decorations. Volunteered to Israeli Army to defend against Transjordan Arab Legion. Became first Israeli brigadier general, and served as Commander of Jerusalem front.
* Bill Maniaci(Vietnam and Desert Shield) 1965-1973 - Investigator, 89th Military Police Group (CI), (during the Yom Kippur War of 1973, he took two weeks leave from the U.S. Army to (unofficially) serve with the IDF in Israel), 1974-75, Chief of Investigations, Provost Martial, U.S. Army Pacific, 1975-76 Chief, Armed Forces Police, Guam. From 1988-1999, he was a Major and Squadron Commander, CAP/USAF narcotics interdiction. In addition to his military career, he also served in the Department of Defense Police and was responsible for the security of classified Naval facilities in Hawaii. Maniaci retired from a remarkable career after serving in civilian law enforcement in Nevada, in June 1999. His decorations include the Bronze Star with Oak Leaf Cluster, Vietnam Cross of Gallantry, and in civilian law enforcement, the "Justice Heart" for wounds in the line of duty. From 1992 to the present, he has been a member of the Jewish Defense League (JDL), succeeding Irv Rubin after his death in 2002, as JDL Chairman for two years, and currently (2006) is the Chief of Security and Intelligence for the JDL.
* Alfred Mordechai, (Civil War)
* Ben Moreel, Admiral,(World War II) Formed the Seabees
* Mordecai Myers, (War of 1812), Captain, New York City's first Jewish Mayor
* Leopold Newman, (Civil War)
* Manuel M. Noah, (American Revolution), Served with General Marion, Financier
* Hyman Rickover, U.S. Admiral, Father of the Nuclear Navy
* Maurice Rose, Major General, (World War II) Negotiated the unconditional surrender of the Germans in Tunisia, Commanded 3rd Armored Division: the first division to cross the German border and the first to breach the Siegfried line, killed in combat
* Edward Rosewater, (Civil War), Union Army telegrapher for President Lincoln, transmitted Gettysburg Address
* Tibor Rubin, (Korea) Medal of Honor for actions in battle and in Chinese POW camp
* Ben L. Salomon, (World War II, Pacific) Captain, U.S.A Medical Corps, Medal of Honor (posthumously) for actions during Battle of Saipan
* Edward S. Salomon, (Civil War)
* Haym Salomon, (American Revolution), Sons of Liberty, Financier
* Francis Salvador, (American Revolution), "Paul Revere of the South"
* Mordecai Sheftall, (American Revolution), "The Great Rebel"
* Seligman Brothers, (Civil War), Financeers
* Frances Slanger, (World War II, France), Lieutenant, U.S. Army Nurses Corps. Killed in action.
* Haym Solomon, Polish-born U.S. financier of the American Revolution and Revolutionary War
* Robert B. Solomon (Vietnam)
* Judah Touro, (War of 1812), civilian volunteer in American Army, Philanthropist
* Max Warshaw, (World War II, North Africa), Staff Sergeant, Army Medic, two Silver Star medals, three Bronze Star medals, the Purple Heart, the Ex-Prisoner of War Medal, the Pre-Pearl Harbor Medal, the European Theater of Operations Medal with six campaign clusters, the Victory Medal, the New York State Conspicuous Cross Medal (for highly decorated veterans), and the Army Combat Medic Badge.
* Antony Wolfe, Englishman, private in the army of the Republic of Texas, killed at the Battle of the Alamo in 1836
* Raymond Zussman, Second Lieutenant, (World War II) Medal of Honor, killed in action
* David Reisberg, Specialist, (War on Terroism)


* Sarah Aaronsohn, British head of anti-Turkish Nili spy-ring
* Denise Bloch, French World War II Special Operations Executive agent
* Eli Cohen, Israeli spy, hanged by Syria
* Avraham Marcus Klingberg, KGB spy, spent 15 years in Israeli prison for passing secrets about biological research to the Soviets.
* Jonathan Pollard, United States Navy intelligence analyst, passed information to Israel
* Julius Rosenberg and Ethel Rosenberg, allegedly gave United States atomic bomb secrets to the Soviet Union
* Krystyna Skarbek, Polish-born British Special Operations Executive agent
* Hannah Szenes, Hungarian-born British-Palestine, Special Operations Executive agent
* Mordechai Vanunu, Moroccon-born Israeli, spied on Israel's Dimona nuclear reactor, (converted to Christianity)
* Moshe Marzouk, Israeli spy and Karaite Jew executed by Egypt, part of the Lavon Affair

–––––––––––––––––––––––––-US-Jews Criminals :–––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––

* Jack Abramoff, Republican fraudster
* Elliott Abrams, Republican fraudster
* Eugene Abrams,child pornographer
* Joyce Abrams,child pornographer
* David Edward Attias,multiple murderer, deliberately drove into a crowd at high speed
* David Berkowitz (Jewish mother, adopted by Jewish parents), serial killer, the "Son of Sam" case
* Ivan Boesky, Wall Street fraudster
* Samuel Byck, killed a police officer and a pilot while attempting to hijack a jet to crash into the White House
* Morris Cohen, Soviet spy sentenced to 25 years; subject of Hugh Whitemore's drama for stage and TV Pack of Lies
* Lona Cohen, Soviet spy sentenced to 20 years; subject of Hugh Whitemore's drama for stage and TV Pack of Lies
* Frank Collin (father was Jewish), neo-Nazi pædophile convicted for molesting young boys
* Judith Coplon, one of the first Soviet spies to be prosecuted
* Laurie Dann, school shooter on a psychiatric drug, murdered an 8-year-old boy with his classmates
* Ira Einhorn, murderer, fled U.S. after jumping low bail secured by his lawyer Arlen Specter
* Andrew Fastow, Enron fraudster
* Lea Fastow. Enron fraudster
* Heidi Fleiss, convicted in the "Hollywood Madam" case
* Leo Frank, convicted of raping and murdering a 12-year-old girl
* Arnold Friedman,pædophile, subject of Andrew Jarecki's Oscar-nominated film Capturing the Friedmans
* Jesse Friedman,pædophile, subject of Andrew Jarecki's Oscar-nominated film Capturing the Friedmans
* Alison Ginsberg, guilty of operating a brothel with her synagogue cantor husband
* Harry Gold, atomic spy sentenced to 30 years for his role in the Rosenberg ring
* Emma Goldman, anarcho-communist imprisoned three times
* Baruch Goldstein, M.D., massacring doctor, murdered 29 Muslim civilians at prayer
* Jeremy Goldstein,campus rapist
* Joel Gordon,synagogue cantor guilty of operating a brothel
* David Greenglass, atomic spy sentenced to 15 years for his role in the Rosenberg ring
* Lizzie Grubman, publicist guilty of deliberately driving into a crowd
* Leona Helmsley, hotel queen imprisoned for tax evasion
* Rabbi Alan Horowitz, M.D.,pædophile psychiatrist
* Clifford Irving, convicted fraudster, wrote hoax biography of Howard Hughes
* V. J. Jerome, Communist convicted under Smith Act for advocating overthrow of U.S. government
* Adam Kidan, SunCruz fraudster connected to Jack Abramoff
* Marjorie Knoller,lawyer convicted for murder of Diane Whipple
* Earl Krugel, JDL terrorist sentenced to 20 years, but killed in prison
* Jean Lafitte, Louisiana pirate
* Nathan Leopold, convicted for "thrill killing" 14-year-old Bobby Franks
* Dennis Levine, Wall Street insider trader/fraudster
* Scooter Libby, indicted ex-chief of staff for Dick Cheney
* Richard Loeb, convicted for "thrill killing" 14-year-old Bobby Franks
* Michael Milken, "junk bond king" fraudster
* Sara Jane Moore, failed assassin of Gerald Ford
* Fred Neulander, rabbi convicted for murder
* Robert Noel,lawyer convicted of manslaughter for death of Diane Whipple
* William Perl, Soviet spy in the Rosenberg ring
* Jonathan Pollard, Navy intelligence analyst serving life sentence for spying for lsrael
* Marc Rich, fraudster, negotiated pardon with Scooter Libby as his attorney
* Ethel Rosenberg, executed spy in the Rosenberg ring
* Julius Rosenberg, executed spy in the Rosenberg ring
* Irv Rubin, JDL terrorist, died in jail
* Jack Ruby, killer of Lee Harvey Oswald
* Morton Sobell, atomic spy sentenced to 30 years for his role in the Rosenberg ring
* Jack Soble, convicted spy in the Mocase ring
* Myra Soble, convicted spy in the Mocase ring
* Robert Soblen, psychiatrist, convicted spy in the Mocase ring sentenced to life, but he escaped to lsrael
* Phil Spector, music producer indicted for (and admitted to) murder of Lana Clarkson
* Joel Steinberg, murdered a 6-year-old girl
* Jeremy Strohmeyer, molested and murdered a 7-year-old girl in a casino restroom
* Adam Worth, Victorian era thief, model for Moriarty

by Hitler's Ghost at April 12, 2006 8:51 PM

wow, this post is so rock'n'roll

in france, we call it : "philosophie de comptoir".
sorry, but i can't explain it.

it's a fact, no one really knows of what he is talking about, and every post is just a better way to make this conflict worse.

I'm french, but please, don't fuck me eff, j'ai un trop petit trou du cul pour ça.

French and american people are both stupid, and we both act in the wrong way sometimes. Still, do people wants to fuck us after that ? We should all be more open-minded, i'm sure that it would be better for everyone.

as i'd say : "l'erreur est humaine".

PS : en fait ce post est un putain de gros troll de merde, et vraiment je trouve ça dommage qu'on en arrive à des extremités pareilles pour de telles conneries. et gna gna, c'est lui qu'a commencé !

by erwan at April 19, 2006 12:41 PM

LOL @ hitlersghost, what an anti-semitic clown.

You french just stick to what you know best, bread, cheese, and a little wiiiiiiine. Oh, forgot, California is now winning in the wine contests, lol. Well, you guys still got the bread and cheese thing going for ya!

by ralph at April 24, 2006 7:57 AM

My dear Ralphy, don't forget that the first Californian vineyards plants were directly imported from France. But i agree with you. Californian wines are really good wines. Beautiful French wines clones.

by CHARLES at April 24, 2006 12:39 PM

You now what? In France most of people thinks that americans are at the top of idiots,but idiots with big guns,lovely ladys,great lands... and fortunately you have some example of great people,fortunately...I like to see comments which they are more intelligent that the original text, i really like it. In france we have a proverb that I hope you've got the same: "il y a des cons partout",in france, in america, in bangladesh and if there someone on mars:there are ass hole, you can be sure of that. So don't insult all the french when you talk with an idiot which is unfortunately french, because we continue to go to macdonald while you launch the operation liberty for fries ( we thanks you for that, lot of laugh) But don't be angry, we love america even if we don't understand you. forgieve me for my sad english "Dieu crea le monde, le trouvait beau. Sa grande creation était la france, pays merveilleux qui rayonnait sur le monde entier. Trouvant cela injuste, il crea les francais..." Lol

by tom at May 3, 2006 2:41 PM

As the pictures have poured out of Abu Ghraib over the last fortnight, rightwing pundits in the American media have in unison performed that hallowed ritual of teenage girls who don't want to hear bad news about rotten hair-dos or cheating boyfriends - essentially by sticking their fingers in their ears and screaming: "lalalalalalalalalalalala!" No, insisted one identikit tall-in-the-saddle Bush partisan this week, "our values are still the right values - and they will be the Iraqi values."
Another chimed in with the well-worn amen-corner dirge about "our enemies": "They hate our life and they hate our democratic values." And we wonder why. Aren't they grateful for all the hot democracy and freedom we've been exporting their way lately?
If America, as it claims, wants to build a new Iraq in Uncle Sam's image, then it couldn't have done a better job than it has so far. They've already installed a brand, spanking new American-style political system, which is to say one rotten with preferment, patronage and nepotism, riddled with conflicts of interest and corporate corruption, and utterly lacking any convincing mandate from the electorate.
We've favoured these ungrateful bastards with all the benefits of American insularity and racism, with the fabled fondness of the Bush White House for open government and a free and balanced press (the whole Falluja hee-haw kicked off when troops closed down Al Sadr's newspaper), and with our mania for privatisation, which extends to the hiring of some 20,000 overpaid mercenaries who can be held accountable to no one, not even for rape or murder.
But nowhere does the image of true American values loom larger than in the nauseating photos of abuse and humiliation from Abu Ghraib. George Bush made a point of reminding us that: "Saddam's torture chambers are closed, his rape-rooms are gone."
Far from being closed, the torture chambers and rape rooms are apparently just "under new management". Behind these images lie more images, from Hollywood and from US TV, that seem somehow to encourage and even shape the prevailing mentality at Abu Ghraib.
There is the understanding, based in reality but endlessly recycled in TV's Oz and The Shawshank Redemption, that going to prison will involve being gang-raped by large men who'll break your jaw to make sure you don't bite back. There is the gradual numbing of the audience for, say, 24 or Alias, to the idea that torture is not a legitimate instrument of modern warfare; in certain circumstances it's just hunky dory.
Among the images from Abu Ghraib and elsewhere that still remain unseen by the public, there are the dread echoes of American hardcore pornography, particularly of bondage and sadism: a man forced to simulate masturbation near another prisoner's mouth, rumours of the rape of women prisoners by US servicemen, the predominance of humiliating (and to Muslims, deeply blasphemous) nudity everywhere.
As Seymour Hersh, the investigator who uncovered this whole sorry story, has pointed out, the result of all this is that the Arab world now thinks of America as a perverted, genitally-fixated society exporting its ideas about sex to a devout Iraq.
You can't get an accurate picture of what "exporting democracy" means by listening to Bush or Cheney, who seem to loath democracy and freedom for anyone but their crooked mates and their minatory corporate backers. Better to seek out documentaries like The Corporation, a history and indictment of the titular business entity, or Hidden in Plain Sight, a searing exposé of the US Army's "School of The Americas" at Fort Benning, where a number of Latin America's more celebrated dictators and secret policemen received lengthy instruction in the application of electricity to testicles and footwear to faces.
The Corporation picked up the World Cinema award at this year's Sundance film festival. The World Cinema award, by the way, was sponsored this year by Coca-Cola. The corporation, the ideal social unit in George Bush's warped conception of a free and just society, is convincingly depicted as a cancer on global society, exporting perverted, 19th-century American business ideas - child labour, zero healthcare or union representation, 14-hour days, etc - to pockets of the world so impoverished they can't negotiate terms.
In America, of course, prison-building and management is now a largely corporate sphere of endeavour, so look for some of those psychopathic urges to arise in a place like Abu Ghraib. Anyone who's seen Hidden in Plain Sight could have predicted everything lately revealed about the new prison system in Iraq, and indeed the entire invasion-occupation farce.
For many decades the US army oversaw the oppression of large areas of Central and South America thanks to graduates of the School of the Americas, who included Noriega and half of Pinochet's military command structure. Such operatives were deeply mired in the CIA's decades-long Operation Condor, which was a fancy Andean-sounding monicker for the continent-wide deployment of American-sponsored death squads.
These days we have Plan Colombia, "a counter-insurgency programme masquerading as a counter-narcotics programme", in the words of one retired CIA officer. The school was finally closed down in 2002, after years of protests. Naturally it instantly reopened under another name, the Western Hemisphere Institute for Security Cooperation. It has exactly the same function. So much for 9/11 changing the world.
Last week I saw Hector Babenco's new movie, Carandiru, which focuses on Brazil's Sao Paolo prison where 8,000 convicts thronged, until its closure and demolition two years ago, in a space meant to hold 3,500.
The film uncovers a world where prisoners are largely self-governing; conjugal visits are permitted, and the cells are as vivid and colourful as the prisoners they confine. Even after the film's conclusion, a recreation of the infamous massacre in 1992 of 111 mutinous but unarmed inmates by the military, I felt I'd still rather be locked up in Carandiru than in Abu Ghraib or in any American penitentiary. Which is appalling.

by John at May 4, 2006 12:24 PM

hello sorry but i don't speak english very well,but i understand the words write here"in french sorry"j'ai compris certaines choses dont j'étais navré,mais ici les francais sont pas tous là a dire que les americains sont des cons comme l'a dit un d'entre vous,il y a des cons partout,et je pense qu'il doit y en avoir la même quantité chez vous que chez nous,et oui la connerie n'a pas de couleur ni de nationalité.comme je suis un francais je peu temoigner de la connerie des francais qui m'entoure,certains ne reflechissent pas et rejete tout ce qui peut venir des usa (nourriture,culture...)jme gene pas de leur rappeler que c'est des cons a l'occasion,mais le monde et fait ainsi et il y a les mêmes au usa mais aussi en italie en allemagne au japon en chine au bangladesh en inde en iraq en espagne au tibet en russie en irlande en angleterre au pays bas et dans tous les autres pays,pour moi,un con est un con peu importe la langue qu'il parle,mais aussi quelqu'un d'admirable d'intelligent de courageu de cultivé peu arborer n'importe quelle drapeau de n'importe quelle nation.

by nicolas at May 13, 2006 4:58 AM

Les mecs tout le monde est d'accord pour dire qu'ici on dégueule des conneries sans aucun intérêt, mais sérieux si vous êtes pas foutus de le faire en anglais (même mauvais) arrêtez. Franchement, déjà que votre avis ils s'en cognent, vous imaginez sérieusement qu'ils vont le traduire (encore faudrait-il qu'ils parlent une autre langue que la leur) ?

I don't give a fuck of all your bullshits girlies. California won nothing, France still own the wine contest. California is just a challenger, just as Australia, Italy and even Algeria (no joke).
Something else ? Good society in America drinks French wine, even Californian producers !!! LOL
It's a good thing that big cities inhabitants are not like Ralph.
Ralph, I love you.

by frenchkiss at May 15, 2006 3:08 PM


by ARNOLD at May 25, 2006 3:34 PM


I was just hanging around when I heard people talking...So I'm french and I just want to say that the help USA gave us in the WW2 was quite "usefull" (sorry lack of vocabulary) so I have to thank all the people who took part in it, but I don't forget that politics never give their help for nothing. And, everybody will agree that the US governement found is interest in standing with us (economic interests and blablabla) And I'm not going to criticize it because it's quite normal, I don't see the point to help people for absolutely nothing and in the same time loosing men and money...
Now when you see it that way, I don't see why we should have helped the USA in the war in irak:

1° That's not because 50 years ago USA helped us, that we owe a favor today!! Wake up the world has changed in 50 years and the aims of the war in Irak have nothing to do with the aims of the WW2!

2° most of the french people didn't want the war, and didn't want it too because I'm pretty sure that the end of Saddam won't help iraqui people. The war needed to came from iraqui people and not from a rich occidental country wich is more regarded as an intruder than as a hero...
And I must say the president Bush isn't really popular in France (no kidding?) he is really seen as an oportunist, a lier... (ex: there are massive destruction weapons hidden somewhere Saddam's lying that's why we'll fight him! ...Oh really? We thought you were looking for petrol!)
But if it can help, learn that in France no politic is popular since De Gaulle. Even Mitterand which was a socialist (in France it's fashionable to vote socialist since 1968) was highly criticized (and higly loved in fact, politic is just like opera, you hate or love but cannot be indiferent)
Therefore, when you think that the most important minority in our country is from Maghreb countries you can't seriously be surprised we step back from the war!
For me our president Chirac had all the reasons to refuse to help the USA but it was internal reasons (for him it was the best way to regrow his popularity for example)

Concerning our army, well, it's sure we're not the best, but considering the money we spend in it, the size of our country and the lack of charisma and authority of our governants it's not really surpising. In the same time, I'm quite content that our budget (well I don't know if I can't talk about budget as we don't have money any more...>another reason not stepping in the war see?) doesn't turn around military things (ok I need a dictionnary right know but wathever) and in my perfect world it would turn around education, scientific research, industries...(Yeah I'm naive but I'm young let me dream)
re-concerning our army I'm pretty sure you can found as many jerk in yours than in ours! They are so many in the world...

Wow I really talk too much...But I have to add something, despite the fact that spitting on USA is quite in the air in France (most of the time teenagers and socialists) french people do not hate US people, personaly I do love you country and your culture just as I do love mine (even if in many ways I'm not satisfact the way all goes) And I'm not the only one!
And, if you want to criticize France, go on but don't put us in the same basket for God's sake!!!!!

So Fuck the french but friendly fuck them!

by Christelle at May 26, 2006 3:10 PM

And sorry for my english which is sooooooo bad (and all theses faults argh)

by Christelle at May 26, 2006 3:17 PM

Sometimes, it's really funny to observe all these nasty opinions about the French coming from Us'ians or British, concerning their rudeness, specially the Parisians. France is like all the countries over the world. You have good and bad people like everywhere. Are the Anglosaxons so nice with French tourists?
What do they want to see when they come in France? Fairytales castles? Little romantic princess with dwarfs, in the streets?
France is a modern industrialized country. And if you can find a big historical heritage, you can also find ghettos and gangs like everywhere.
Before to come here, they have first to clean their heads of all the silly clichés attached to France. Existentialism, bérets, Maurice Chevalier, frog legs, dirty and smelly French, Paris romantic city, the French love Jerry Lewis, and all these kind of craps. 90 per cent of the french teenagers don't even know who is Jerry Lewis. I think that many Anglosaxons have a totally outdated and obsolete image of France. Concerning safety and beauty, Are the N.Y Bronx or Watts L.A ghettos such clean and nice places? And for WW2, put in your head that NOBODY CARES ANYMORE HERE. IT'S PREHISTORICAL STUFF. Most of the young French even don't know that a war took place in Europe more than 60 years ago. It's like if you talk about Géronimo with US teenagers. The biggest part of the people involved in these events are dead now. Too, as a French who visited USA in the 80's, i can tell that i found many US citizens aggressive, xénophobic, close minded, almost insane in their behaviour. And above all, absolutely IGNORANT about the world affairs. I will never go back.
Cultural differences between people are often matters of conflicts and misperceptions.

by VEDETTE at May 28, 2006 6:54 PM

One comment: the Americans swallowed the lies that Saddam was behind the 9/11 attacks and that Irak had weapons of mass destruction.
The French knew that this was hogwash.
The French were right and the yanks showed themselves up to be gullible fools,
end of comment.

by malcolm at May 29, 2006 12:02 PM

it's so fun to read Midle Unsanities that it keeps it funny... for a short while... after this becomes something related to something more!...

by French at June 13, 2006 4:33 PM

Qu'ils disent se qu'ils ont envie mais PLEASE je veux pas une 3eme guerre mondiale ! après le reste ... qu ils viennent nous baiser ... ça leur ferra un peu d'exercice ...

by Miou miou at June 14, 2006 10:09 AM

ils ne savent même pas où se situent la France ...

by Nini at June 14, 2006 10:14 AM

vous etes vraiment des abrutis d'americains!
alors la pour critiquer les autres ya du monde!
je parle anglais mais la j'en ai meme pas envie tellement vous me degoutez!
vive la france et les français! on ne generalise pas les gens sans les connaitre!
tout le monde n'est pas à mettre dans le meme sac, ouvrez votre esprit ca vous ferait pas de mal!

by vero at June 15, 2006 7:49 AM

Contrairement à ce que l'on à toujours voulu faire avaler au bon peuple de France pendant des décennies, les Francais ont toujours été très mal vus aux Etats Unis.
A part une minorité de francophiles (peut être 5%), la grande majorité des étatsuniens est indifférente ou hostile par rapport à la France. J'en ai fait moi même l'expérience lors d'un voyage en 1984. Les citoyens US de base ont à peu près autant d'estime et de considération pour la France que les Francais pour l'Albanie ou le Portugal. Ils ne connaissent RIEN de la France, hormis toujours les mêmes clichés grotesques (bérêts, baguettes et compagnie).
En plus, ils considèrent les Francais comme des anti Americains ingrats qui oublient que les USA les ont libérés en 1944. Et oui, c'est ca la France pour un étatsunien moyen. Quand on pense que la majorité des Francais ne le sait même pas et continue de s'abreuver à toutes les sous crasses étatsuniennes diffusées dans les médias ou au cinéma, ca fout vraiment les boules.
Mais un jour ou l'autre, tout à une fin.

by KLEBER at June 15, 2006 5:38 PM

Im french and i love u poor american!
U r so naive, u r still thinking that Ossama Ben laden did the terrorist attack ^^
And u r so stupid too; no culture; no good food...

Hate us! Hate us!


by salska at June 23, 2006 5:35 AM

Hi, France is a fucking country since the miles years. They only care about their interest. Because of the Stupid France, my country is poor. They support a wrong governement. They support wrong government and dont care about peoples conditions. Just all French colonie in Africa. I have a revanche again France. Personnal revanche. It will be worst than what Ben Laden did on the September 11. I Promise. May someone remember this. And on that day. He/she will remember that i wrote it somewere. Thanks

by Mendoz at July 1, 2006 11:03 PM

I'm Norwegian and i'd just like to say 'NO'

I'd also like to say a big greeting to the best club in the world:

"Le Equateur Club" In Le Lavandou :D or XD for u spanish ppl :P

by NerooN at July 15, 2006 9:31 PM

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vraiment le delire!
and you can discuss with many supids americans, more than this one!

by rikiki at September 2, 2006 9:24 PM

oh also i would like to say that eff is really a fat poor pig, that his opinion doesnt count, and tah the should treat his diabete quickly
u are not human!
c'est matiere grasse contre matiere grise !

sale porc!

by rikiki at September 2, 2006 9:27 PM

Fuck the french. I got a 45 and a ak47 with your fucken french names on it. The only good french is a dead french. I hope one day we go to war with france so i can kill you fuckers and your familys.

by Zin at November 5, 2006 8:21 PM

Another mental patient. Poor Zin, go to masturbate in your shabby bedroom with porn photos of condoleeza's black pussy.

by MINOS at November 7, 2006 1:02 PM

one day i will kill all french men and woman. i will \show the world how wonderfull a french mens suffering and death looks.Kicking in french childrens teath in with my steal toe boots and sawing off french mens heads slowy. Youll see true death. you my call me names but youll see,french men every where will be dieing. Only good french is a dead roting french men.

by zin at November 8, 2006 4:31 AM

i hope your all geting pissed because thats all im doing is just makeing an ass of my self because im bord. Im in no way being for real with my "threats" so ya sorry im being a troll. I'll stop now becauseu im bord of this site. have fun you wont see me again lol And for the record i dont have an beef with french people. i just like being an ass and trying tp piss people off and spam blogs. Bye.

by zin at November 8, 2006 5:22 AM

during ww2 america was invaded by 52 german uboats in the gulf of mexico and sunk over 340 american ships before we even reached france-ya thats right look it up americas biggest blunders...not to help the french so shut the hell up about that shit, i know somebody that was stationed there after the war and witnessed the french elders being kicked on buses because they expected them to kiss their ass
for what the original fighters did...and D-day would have been different if the french heros didn't blow up the many fuel depots along the route to the shores- that the germans were expecting to use. All i could say is everybody don't know anything but to hate. You got your wish-welcome to the new world. p.s. frenchand i feel sorry for the french named american soldiers that have been killed in iraq so far
because they have to worry about people like you behind them,
people is the 6th largest ethnic group in the U.S.

by Joel at December 23, 2006 12:08 AM

fuck the USA

by french at December 30, 2006 9:20 AM

What is all shit, fuck the french, fuck the americans. People do NOT choose nationality, race and usally have no control over the actions of goverment. I LOVE America not because it is better than any other country, but because it is my country of birth and it is what I grew up with. I also love my wifes country Japan. I have been living here for years and met people from all over the world and they all have great culture and interesting history new or old. I think the French are just fine as well, good food, great history, and good people. Of course the have dicks in France just the same as every other country on earth. Ralph please give it a break you really make your fellow Americans look dumb

by Maebashi at December 31, 2006 8:30 AM

we Turks dont want to be a part of eu
eu is an union of bloodsuckers and among all these human rights speeches it is based on economic principles that treat the whole world. when you read the titles of eu you will see % 80 of business %10 of social subjects and % 10 human rights and democracy but when they speak they speak loudly about human rigths so people think only the human rights is european busniness

lets remember the human rights in europe from history little bit

democratic europa's capital THE MOST DEMOCRATIC BELGIUM
buys a land in africa with people inside to export democracy called KONGO
result:elected lumumba was tortured (they are against -sometimes-) and killed 100000's of locals died number not known

very very democratic FRANCE
think that they had right to rule all north middle and west of african land caused numeruous civil wars paint the ground in to red with black people's blood and lets ask and remind them how many algerians were killed by their killer team (legion) what was french doing in cambodia and how many cambodians they killed ah! are they still chad What kind of democracy they support there lets ask algerians about french high french human rights concept they can tell us how well! it feels

very very democratic GERMANY
they came a long way after hitler
they are not burning the people in the massive ovens anymore they are developed and have new technology to replace
for example supporting civil neo-nazist gangs and make them attack to the non-germans in solingen and burn a whole family with all members
they also developed the isolation cells in their prison that was discovered by the co-operation of two real germans hitler-mengele yes they are very good at it i wathced a documentry about how they treat the RAF prisoners and witnessed the best human rights in the world god! these germans are great really developing day by day but we should not be so cruel in judging them maybe they were not aware of that the RAF prisoners were human if they did surely would respect their human rights
a turkish woman was not accepted to a hospital in democratic germany because she couldn't speak german but nothing wrong with it they are the children of mengele hypocrat cries who cares

land of europe's rising after mid-age darkness ITALY
they rised too high so they went to liban with the order of their faschist commender mussoulini and gave them a new life yes a real new life how? simple! they killed 100000's of people and most of them were oldmen women and children they sent them to heaven as the beginning of their new life thanks a lot ITALY they really needed to be killed and you helped them
what a bout their famous mafia was it at the times of the holy EU?
corraption in the country? ok forget about it

i am really tired of writing there are 100's of things to write but lets remember a few things more shortly

SWEEDEN......ask them to their neighbours especially to norway what they think about them
SPAIN............many things to remeber mix of germany and france but it is sad while spain is one of the very first blood suckers in the world they can not lead EU at this point their friends went far further
ENGLAND......land of magna carta oops! -no comment- they are a black page in world history as everyone knows

of course thats not all folks! there are many more things to say but if anyone want to see EU democracy just have look at african map and see natural! borders decided by these democratic countries it seems like they came together on a table took a piece of paper and a rular DRAW!
i remember something like EVERY MAN HAS A RIGHT TO DECIDE HIS OWN DESTINY like the africans did by the help of europeans they were primitive and were not able to draw straigth lines so the europeans helped them i explain to you because when you see a map dont misunderstand

now for turks human rights from EU

by Altun at January 6, 2007 12:17 PM

Very very democratic turkey... That genosized armenia and massacrates kurds

by kalimotxo at January 30, 2007 4:21 PM

Best soldiers in the world: North Koreans far away long.

by kalimotxo at January 30, 2007 4:25 PM

Best soldiers in the world: North Koreans far away long.

by kalimotxo at January 30, 2007 4:26 PM

far away long.......what the fuck does that mean

by Ray at January 30, 2007 11:39 PM

Je crois que les américains, s'ils n'aiment pas les français parce qu'ils ont refusé d'entrer dans cette foutue guerre en Irak, sont en train de devenir (à bien moindre échelle bien sur) ce qu'ils ont juré d'éradiquer il y a de cela soixante ans : le fachisme...Et oui, nous en Europe, on ressent cette rigidité d'esprit de la part des amricain envers tout ce qui n'est pas conforme au mode de vie américain (en gros on a l'impression que si on est pas avec vous, on est contre vous point final). Cependant, qu'ils aient se faire mettrent et s'ils sont contre l'Europe, ben tant pis pour eux. Comme on dit par ici : bande de pd de ta mère, va t'faire...mais je crois que c'est heureusement une minorité de glands de chez vous qui sont étroits d'esprit mais faites quand mème gaffe à ce que cette putain d'idéologie naissante -qu'on pourrait qualifier de "fachisme US" si elle devient trop exacerbée ultérieurement- ne prenne trop d'ampleur.

by Michel at March 2, 2007 4:07 PM

Je crois que les am鲩cains, s'ils n'aiment pas les fran硩s parce qu'ils ont refus頤'entrer dans cette foutue guerre en Irak, sont en train de devenir (ࠢien moindre 飨elle bien sur) ce qu'ils ont jur頤'鲡diquer il y a de cela soixante ans : le fachisme...Et oui, nous en Europe, on ressent cette rigidit頤'esprit de la part des amricain envers tout ce qui n'est pas conforme au mode de vie am鲩cain (en gros on a l'impression que si on est pas avec vous, on est contre vous point final). Cependant, qu'ils aient se faire mettrent et s'ils sont contre l'Europe, ben tant pis pour eux. Comme on dit par ici : bande de pd de ta m貥, va t'faire...mais je crois que c'est heureusement une minorit頤e glands de chez vous qui sont 鴲oits d'esprit mais faites quand m譥 gaffe ࠣe que cette putain d'id鯬ogie naissante -qu'on pourrait qualifier de "fachisme US" si elle devient trop exacerb饠ult鲩eurement- ne prenne trop d'ampleur.

by Michel at March 2, 2007 4:07 PM

Americans don t exist anymore.They have been replaced by USIANS. The True Americans were Amerindians. The current are a bunch of murderers , losers, wankers, uncivilized and uneducated brainwashed assholes. FUCK THEM.

by raoul at March 4, 2007 9:33 AM

no raoul fuck you, I am none of the above. Your broad stroke of judgement over a group of people proves you have little room for questioning the education level of anyone. I would like to put a question to you. What is a true european? Anglo, Saxon, Franco, Celtic ect ect. Wait I will answer for. None of the above. If you are European it is only due to your birth. You are just a bag of mixed shit just like your beloved Americans. If We Americans are a bunch of murders, losers, wankers, and uneducated brainwashed assholes it must be due to our great european roots. The apple does not fall far from the tree cunt

by Ray at March 4, 2007 10:48 PM

Ps Do not hate France in the least. Really nice place, but england was a bit of a let down

by Ray at March 4, 2007 10:52 PM

硠c'est bien dit,faut pas hair les fran硩s car finalement les fran硩s ne sont que des am鲩cains qui ont eux peur de partir part dela l'atlantique il y a de cela quelque siecle et les riquains ne sont rien d'autre que des europ饮s pas tr賠convaincu en leur temps par cette merde de vieux monde et qui ont d飩d頤e partir, finalement les am鲩cains ne sont que des europ鮥s d鲡cinn鳠(la preuve : pour retourner au racine, ils se mettent ࠦaire du vins comme les fran硩s :) )...Mais si certains sur ce forum dise "fuck the french" j'aimerai gentillement leur rappeller que les forces sp飩ales fran硩s sont engag饠au cot頤es navy seals de la navy et qu'il y a pas si longtemps deux membre des forces sp飩als fran硩ses ont 鴩 tu鳠en Afghanistan alors un peu de respect merde et ࠣeux qui dise toujours "fuck the french" , il faut qu'ils sachent qu'ils ont ࠰eux pr賠cinq cents millions d'europ饮 qui leurs disent d'aller se faire mettre...Moi j'ai rien contre l'am鲩que hors mis le fait que lࠢas les dirigeants veulent pas changer leur mode de vie et continuer ࠰olluer ࠴out va, ࠰art 硠je dis "vive l'am鲩que" et pour longtemps encore...

by Michel at March 5, 2007 6:15 PM

My only point Is that I dislike bigots and assholes of any sort American included. I have just recently returned to my country from living in Japan the last three years and can say we do have a lot of assholes here, but no more than in Japan or France. Differnce is the Japanese assholes were at least quiet lol.

by Ray at March 5, 2007 8:26 PM

Quelqu'un sait-il si les travaux de construction de la Freedom Tower ont déja commencés? Je demande ça car j'ai vraiment envie de me rendre à Ground Zero l'an prochain -les attentats du Onze Septembre m'ayant vraiment marqués- avant qu'ils ne commencent à batir dessus?

by Michel at March 6, 2007 9:18 AM

I thought before winter this year, but they continue to find human remains while clearing the site for construction. So I would have to guess we will not be seeing a Freedom Tower in its complete form for at least another three years.

by Ray at March 6, 2007 2:50 PM

Simple observation,dear Ray. If the vast majority of the French knows how to make the difference between US government and US people,this is not the case with US folks who confound average Frenchmen with the French government. I realized it when i visited this place a few years ago. The gross ignorance of the US basic citizens about the world affairs outside the US is really AWFUL. They swallow like fools all the medias lies and have a lot of stupid preconceived views about the rest of the world,specially the French. The skewed and false stereotypes associated with the French in USA are really grotesque. There are around 180 countries in the world. In many fields, France is amongst the five ones. But the Alabama or Texas rednecks are unable to locate France or even Europe on a world map. PATHETIC,DRAMATIC. But finally, WHO GIVE A SHIT OR WHO CARE about the hamburger eaters. This place is in complete fall everywhere. Iraq is the beginning of the end for them. And at the same time, CHINA oberves and gently sneers.

by raoul at March 6, 2007 5:05 PM

Maybe so , but I have met my fair share of ignorant people from places all over the world. One of my best friends I had while living in Japan was a Frenchman who was over all nice but completly ingnorant of anything American or South American or Canadian. why? I would have to say because my part off the world doesnt have much bearing on his daily life and thats fine by me. I do not believe everyone in the world should care about or like America as a country, but should do thier best to judge people on a one on one basis not treat every American as he or she said "lets invade countries" or I hate the French bla bla bla I for one wish my country would concern it self more taking care off its self and leave the rest of the world alone, but if America does that people will complain "where is America why dont they help" So it is a lose lose situation for America

by Ray at March 7, 2007 12:30 AM

Sure. But difficult to understand this primitive hate against the French in USA, Most of these wankers have never set a single foot in France and they swallow like idiots piles of trash as Fox news like the Bible. All these silly cliches as rude French or arrogant or chauvinistic. This fake perception comes from cultural differences, Obviously, you can find people like this in France, but not only in France. The enormous majority of the French are like other peoples, Good and bad, like everywhere. All this WW2 stuff is also boring and exasperating.It means nothing for 85% of the current French because for the simple reason that they were no born at this time. And if US folks wants to talk about wars, they should have experience it on their land before to have the right to judge other peoples. In the sole battle of Verdun in 1916, a French victory, French casualties have been around 300000. Equivalent to all the US casualties in WW2 on all fronts,And no, the French were not surrender monkees in WW2. Before to surrender in 1940, they lost 100000 soldiers after 6 weeks of fights, , and killed around 30000 German troops.At this time all Europe surrendered to Hitler, even the Soviet Union in 1941, except Great Britain, for the simple reason that it is an island, So, you can understand that all the lies and bullshits of Denis Miller and Jay Leno are a little difficult to digest. Too many US citizens are immature and uneducated. They consider themselves like the sole country on earth, and only for this reason they are hated all around the world, in many places. They should more travel, only to establish their total disconnection with the world realities. US citizens have no history. France with his 2000 years existence has too much, That is the point. Hate comes from jealousy and ignorance.

by raoul at March 7, 2007 4:05 PM

Sure. But difficult to understand this primitive hate against the French in USA, Most of these wankers have never set a single foot in France and they swallow like idiots piles of trash as Fox news like the Bible. All these silly cliches as rude French or arrogant or chauvinistic. This fake perception comes from cultural differences, Obviously, you can find people like this in France, but not only in France. The enormous majority of the French are like other peoples, Good and bad, like everywhere. All this WW2 stuff is also boring and exasperating.It means nothing for 85% of the current French because for the simple reason that they were no born at this time. And if US folks wants to talk about wars, they should have experience it on their land before to have the right to judge other peoples. In the sole battle of Verdun in 1916, a French victory, French casualties have been around 300000. Equivalent to all the US casualties in WW2 on all fronts,And no, the French were not surrender monkees in WW2. Before to surrender in 1940, they lost 100000 soldiers after 6 weeks of fights, , and killed around 30000 German troops.At this time all Europe surrendered to Hitler, even the Soviet Union in 1941, except Great Britain, for the simple reason that it is an island, So, you can understand that all the lies and bullshits of Denis Miller and Jay Leno are a little difficult to digest. Too many US citizens are immature and uneducated. They consider themselves like the sole country on earth, and only for this reason they are hated all around the world, in many places. They should more travel, only to establish their total disconnection with the world realities. US citizens have no history. France with his 2000 years existence has too much, That is the point. Hate comes from jealousy and ignorance.

by raoul at March 7, 2007 4:07 PM

France as the the country you live in and know today has no where near 2000 years worth of history. You were part of the Roman Empireand the people that make up modern France are just a mix of many differnt peoples. The US has had several wars within its own borders ( civil war indian war, mexican war, war of 1812, and oh yea the revolutionary war. And yes we do have history mine is part French and German, Irish. American was built by Europeans. Do you believe that this idea of say germany and France as countries is ancient thier not just various rulers various names and many invaders. I have been to France and many many many other places and I know several other people in my life who have as well and we are Educated So why do you continue to judge people as if we are all morans? II do not think off you as any less of a person based upon your nationality. I hate zero hate for France or Europe and no jealousy for sure

by Ray at March 8, 2007 8:12 PM

ps the french are not the most loved people on the planet either. Im sure many Asian and Africans could find a lot of hate for the good ol colonial France of yesterday

by Ray at March 8, 2007 8:14 PM

You have bad,good, morons, ignorant,intelligent people everywhere. In USA, in France,in Nigeria, in Japan.And in France, no more or less than in any other country. There is no special anti USA hate in France. This is not the same in USA concerning France. A visit in this place some years ago left me the impression that a lot of US folks are totally misinformed and ignorant about world affairs. The worst is that they are not even interested for the most part ,with all the non US things. And for this reason, more and more Europeans are not interested anymore in US culture. And concerning wars and civilization how can you compare a country of 200 years existence with European historical heritage? And about French colonial past, this is the past, A long time ago past. This is not worst than nazi slavery ideology, US crimes in Vietnam or Iraq, Indian people genocide by European pilgrims in North America, KKK black segregation ,or CIA support for South Americans dictators or Israel crimes against Palestinians. All the nations have their lights and shadows. Most of US citizens have a hidden inferiority complex with Europeans. Maybe sometimes, this lack of history make them acting like senseless persons.

by raoul at March 9, 2007 4:40 PM

"Most US citizens have a hidden inferiority coplex with Europeans" WOW thats a fucking laugh guy. If your a white American your heritage is EUROPEAN smart guy. Do you ever think before you type? I would like to be civil but your points are well pointless. Cant you just say most goverments are shit regardless of the nation. America is of bad and good, but the average person has no role in the one sided list of shit you typed "cia Bla Bla Bla" You do know the french were the first in Vietnam. Between the french and the british your goverments have drawn maps and claimed land the was not yours more than anyone in modern history. I post here only to by a voice of reason and learning not piss about who has the most corrupt or asshole people. Assholes are asshole everywhere. So maybe you should chill the fuck out and maybe take the time to learn something about a person from another country who is NOT Eurotrash

by Ray at March 10, 2007 10:39 PM

Assholes are assholes everywhere. Sure. But it seems that a lot are concentrated in USA. Many US folks believe that history of the world started with them. A big part are unable to imagine that they come from Europe. The ones that i encountered where very typical incult rednecks, aggressive mongers and ignorant jerks. Sorry and sad for the good ones ,but not very interesting, And for this reason i will never come back in this place. Fake, gaudy culture and poor civilization.No history. This is not arrogant to tell this. This is only the raw truth. there are a lot of attractive places to visit in the world without losing time and money with wankers. And sometimes, this is good too, to stay in the native land.

by raoul at March 11, 2007 5:45 PM

You are lame. I will just type about football. Did you see Barca- Real Messi was killer he had been looking dangerous in the second half and finally with only seconds to go all even. Do not follow either team, Arsenal man, but was a real heartbreaker for Real. Also caught the end of Bayern- Bremen , was glad to see both drop points. I am all for Shalke taking the Bundes Liga this year. The Gunners have a match Wendsday. I really hope that after so much heartbreak we make good with a clean ass spanking over Villa, no Henry though. I still fancy are chances. We had a really good run last time he was out. My last hope for this season is to take over Liverpool and maybe, just maybe make 2 a liitle bit of work for chelski cunts.

by Ray at March 12, 2007 12:31 AM

Ps If you support Lyon this is for you "ROMA ROMA" MANCINI!!!!!!!

by Ray at March 12, 2007 12:33 AM

Ps If you support Lyon this is for you "ROMA ROMA" MANCINI!!!!!!!

by Ray at March 12, 2007 12:33 AM

I prefer baseball.

by raoul at March 12, 2007 5:02 AM

Then lets go RED SOX!!!!

by Ray at March 12, 2007 6:58 PM

Perfect article. The French remind me of my brother: Self centered, snappy, hard to deal with, low sense of humour but he is my brother and would still go to the pub in the presence of his company. Europe for the future.

by Christian Moore at March 13, 2007 9:22 AM

Perfect article. The French remind me of my brother: Self centered, snappy, hard to deal with, low sense of humour but he is my brother and would still go to the pub in the presence of his company. Europe for the future.

by Christian at March 13, 2007 9:22 AM

Stupid bunch of stereotypes. The French are very similar to Americans. The rest is created by the media and the politics to discredit war opponent and by the way make some companies sink.

by Bob at March 22, 2007 10:57 AM

You are so fucking stupid !! You just proved yourself that you don't know anything about French people!! I've lived 18 years in France and now 5 years in the US and i can tell you are full of crap!!
You fucking americans just stay in your hypocrit lives and keep talking like if you knew everything !! go f yourself !!

by a french guy at April 24, 2007 8:41 PM

You are a racist bastard with no talent.

by Peter at September 2, 2007 7:03 PM


by JOSEF at September 9, 2007 8:19 AM

First I want to say I'm french. So you can imagine I don't agree with this fucking idiot effenheimer! This kind of guy is responsibe for the hate existing between our countries. I don't think every americans are fat, or arrogant, or under educated... In US there are many asshole like in France and everywhere , and there are many brilliant people.
By the way, stop reminding us that you save our ass in WWII! You saved nothing your grand father did! Furthermore I just saw A study named "la face cach� des GI's written by an american sociologue called Robert Lilly which prove that the GI were responsible for 17 000 rape of women and children in Great Bretain France and Germany betwenn 1942 and 45. They also were responsible for murder and many crime against alli population!
I'm not writting this thing to prove the superiority of one country. we are different, Not better or worse.
And to conclude, you'd better close your mouth because obviously you've never been in france or even speak with a french, so how could you hate a nation you don't even know?!

by beni at September 12, 2007 12:04 AM


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by Dennis at November 9, 2007 4:00 PM

thanx for writing this.
funny and on the money.

by papi-chulo at November 29, 2007 9:53 PM

Hi, I'm back, almost 3 years later. It's now pretty clear that this war on terror was an uber big mess, and that french were finally right. So, fuck the USA ? No. Usians were basically manipulated, and it's quite amazing how easily the propaganda spreads (Heil Goebbels, it works pretty well on dumb people). Bush was a muppet, totally ignorant on international (all?) related questions. The real persons to blame here are those neocons around him, those christians fundamentalists with their crusade against this axis of oil, their business was growing very well as people were dying, and they still die today and will continue for years as your congressman said.

by alex at November 30, 2007 9:31 AM

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