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And it happens once again...
by anna at 06:45 PM on July 08, 2005
Here we go again. See the carnage. See the claims of responsibility on shady websites. See the politicians wagging their fingers and promising to bring the thugs to justice, whatever that means. See Lock's beloved liberals bemoaning our lack of understanding of the root causes of terrorism. As usual the simple answer is the right one. The root cause of terrorism is---terrorists. Not just any terrorists, Wahibbi Muslim terrorists. Putting aside the USS Cole and Pentagon, which were ligit military targets in a war on the west Osama declared publicly back in '98, they're responsible for two attacks in NYC, the ones in London, Bali, Turkey, Moscow, Spain and the two US embassies in Africa. Let's not forget all their webcast beheadings including the recent killing of the Egyptian ambassador to Iraq. And roadside bombs in Iraq.
Those same liberals caution us not to let this descend into a "clash of civilizations" between the sophisticated, secular west and the religion of peace, Islam. As if it already hasn't. More specifically it is a clash between us and the Wahibbis; we have no quarrel with Sunnis or Shi-ites.
It is also a clash between those two mainstream factions of Islam and the twisted Wahibbis who are the source of all evil today. Here's what the Muslim Council of Britain said: "These evil deeds make victims of us all. The evil people who planned and carried out these series of explosions in London want to demoralize us as a nation and divide us as a people. All of us must unite in helping the police capture these murderers." That's pretty plain talk.
Here are our only choices: 1) Accept things as they are. Do our best to be vigilant and beef up security, but know that every year or so this is going to occur. Forever, or until the Wahibbis meet their goal of killing or subjugating every non-Wahibbi man woman and child alive. And it will only get worse as they acquire more lethal weapons. To this end they will violate every tenet of the very religion their hate-filled ideology grew out of. (One of the targeted subway stations was used mostly by Muslims, a definite no-no. As is the slaughter of defenseless old men, women and kids.)
It's best to think of our sworn enemies like a heavily armed cult, not a strain of Islam. And just ask David Koresh and the Branch Davidians how we deal with heavily armed cults; especially ones headed by deranged pricks who take multiple wives. In Osama’s case, those wives would include his first and main squeeze Sabiha. She endured 25 years of his incessant chanting and notoriously small-dicked ministrations. She then stormed out in disgust after he brought a nubile cutie young enough to be his daughter into the fold. What kind of balls must it take to jilt a mass murderer who makes Ted Bundy look like a humanitarian saint? Which brings me to option #2:
Kill them all and let Allah sort it out. First take great pains to separate real Islam adherents from cult islam i.e. Wahibbis Give folks every chance to renounce violence and hatred and join the Sunnis or Shi-ites and live in peace. Then off the rest of them en masse. (One little problem is that Wahibbism is the official and only religion of our oil-rich pal Saudi Arabia. Oh well. We already hold the second largest oil reserve next to theirs. Maybe we'll take theirs too!)
3) Accede to all Osama's ridiculous demands, whatever they might happen to be on any given day. (Quietly we've already moved most of our troops out of the holy land of Saudi Arabia, one his major beefs. And $3 billion annual aide to Israel could certainly be put to better use building sufficient roads here.) But with the small caveat that in return they agree that there will be a nuclear holocaust in their countries if any harm comes to any of us as a result of their nefarious activities, ever. That should give the tyrants who rule those countries an incentive to police or rub out suspects on their turf. Oh, and there will be no further trade between us and them. We'll get oil from Venezuala, Alaska, Mexico, Russia and Nigeria but not from them. Hell, we'll walk if we have to rather than have anything to do with Wahibi Saudi Arabia. It will be like the old South, two separate but nominally equal worlds. As an added bonus we could abandon the folly in Iraq. Dudes, you're on your own as of today. See ya!
And we shall see who flourishes and who whithers on the vine.
comments (21)
I just realized your Stealy Dan lyric for your previous post...
...I saw 'Stealin' Dan' the tribute band play about a month ago... really good and talented stuff...
by LOCKHEED at July 10, 2005 12:47 AM
I just realized your Stealy Dan lyric for your previous post...
...I saw 'Stealin' Dan' the tribute band play about a month ago... really good and talented stuff...
steely
by LOCKHEED at July 10, 2005 12:48 AM
The guy who did the famous guitar lick in that song and Reeling in the Years (Jeff "Skunk" Baxter) in now some government/lobbying hotshot. How weird is that?
by anna at July 10, 2005 9:56 AM
Seeing Muslims 'condemn these attacks because, oo, they're nasty...' pisses me off somewhat. They seem to be content with a thirty second spot on the news in which they repeat the same condemning speech that the politicians use and seemingly within eight or nine words have wiped their hands clean because they've done their part.
When Britain went to war with Iraq alongside the United States, thousands upon thousands of British people took to the streets with banners reading: "Not in my name!" They marched up and down for a couple of hours and were likely seen on every news channel in the world. There were Muslims involved too of course, but it seems without the likes of British non-Muslims organising these huge marches the effect would be lessened somewhat. The protests smaller, condensed into a thirty second speech on a newscast.
My point is: why the hell don't the Muslims of the free-world, the west, of America, Britain and Europe, make a stand, put a damned jihad on the fanatics perpetrating these attacks? They're quick to tell us that the men responsible are 'not Muslims'. If that’s so then what is the beef with slapping a jihad on their arses? Why not do it? They claim to follow the teachings, these terrorists, they claim to be faithful to do what they do in the name of Allah... surely the one thing that would make them think twice would be the thought of a million or so Muslims condemning their actions with more just words, declaring them faithless as a united community upset that the name of their god is being tarnished, and hitting the terrorists with a jihad. Surely if the religion drives them, then the religious community would do well to turn its back on them, en masse.
Bah... if I were religious, and it was my religion being blackened by the actions of men and women that clearly misunderstand the teachings, I think I'd try to do more than appear for thirty seconds on a news channel to say what everybody else, non-Muslim and Muslim is saying. If it was my country being blamed for something, or my city, or my family, my name, I'd want to do more than talk about it in a fight back. There's nothing inspiring about a thirty second speech on channel that most aren't watching. A snippet in a paper that people will skip. Eee, I dunno. They can do more as representatives of the faith than shake their head at what's been done in the name of it, surely.
by Ex Crimson Guard NCO at July 10, 2005 3:04 PM
That is what I've been saying all along. Particularly for the people of a faith thusly tarnished there must come a time when we put our cowardly political correctness aside and call a spade a spade. Now may be that time.
Or maybe we should ask Bil Maher what he thinks, if anyone can find him.
by anna at July 11, 2005 7:33 AM
Ex, that's what I've been thinking too, but I don't say it for fear of the "racist card" being thrown at me. If there were some Christian nuts out there killing in the name of Jesus, you can bet there'd be a huge outcry of people trying to separate themselves from them. It's been done before. Some people think that Bush is doing that thing in Iraq and their protesting him now.
The only reasons that I can think of that would explain the Muslim world's silence are: the news doesn't cover it or they support the terrorists. After watching and reading some Aljazeera news, I'm starting to believe the latter. Tell me I'm wrong, please.
by MrBlank at July 11, 2005 9:57 AM
Until non-Muslims see some kind of action from the greater Muslim community I think they'll continue to suspect that the thought of supposedly righteous Muslim warriors attacking the west in the name of Allah is heartening to the majority of Muslims. No matter what division of Islam they belong to, or where they live.
I over-used the word Muslim. Say it four times fast... dakka dakka...
by Ex Crimson Guard NCO at July 11, 2005 11:23 AM
First off I hate when folks misuse term racist. most arab muslims are white. second if you don't do more than just talk when these killers are co-opting your faith you're condoning it by omission. They say necessity makes the forbidden permissable. that is orwellian doublespeak.
by anna at July 11, 2005 6:32 PM
So, say a Christian does nothing more than say, "That's terrible!" when some fundamentalist nut does something like: shoots and abortion doctor, or, kills a gay guy for being gay. Is that Christian condoning the nut? Am I condoning anything I don't organize a protest march against? Seems like you're expecting more from the average Muslim than the average Christian, a double standard... unless I misread the comment.
by A Clever Name at July 11, 2005 7:59 PM
If the acts of that Christian pulled the entire faith under an international spotlight and non-Christians were looking to the Church with hate-filled expressions, and the majority of Christians did nothing but make half-arsed condemning statements as a counter balance to the ill-conceived views of the faith... then yeah, I'd say the majority of Christians would be thought to, or that non-Christians would suspect, that the representatives of the faith don't give a fuck.
We're not talking about a single Christian or Muslim committing an isolated act, though, are we? We're talking about an organised offensive designed to terrorise people not of the faith, to push the cause of the faith, in the name of the faith. We're talking hi-jacked planes devastating skyscrapers killing thousands of people, and bombs going off indiscriminately killing Muslims and non-Muslims alike, all in the name of Allah.
If any of this isn't worth the greater Muslim community coming together to show that they genuinely abhor the actions of the men perpetrating these acts, or the prominent heads of the faith to, I don't know, not just condemn but make it known throughout the world, to Muslim communities everywhere, that to commit these acts is to fall out of favour with the very god who is apparently offering sweet spaces in some afterlife with the added bonus of virgins for those that do. That to take the money of fellow Muslims to support your family in the event of you dying while committing these acts is to provoke ill favour from Allah, heh.
You misread the comment, and don't seem to appreciate the circumstances of current events. Much like, I feel, the greater Muslim community. People aren’t sympathetic to the real and god fearing Muslims of the faith. They suspect them of being involved somehow. That no matter what act a Muslim commits, other Muslims will never wish anything bad for them. That because they are Muslims, to the Muslim community, they are immediately pardoned and shouldn’t fear any hate or recrimination from fellow Muslims not involved in these acts.
I may be way off, but after years of this shit, that’s the impression I get of the greater Muslim community. “Hey, we condemn it, what more do you want?” I’m not saying this for my benefit, if anything, I’m suggesting, or would like to see it, for the benefit of genuine Muslims, to change the way they are perceived by non-Muslims. Because frankly, I haven’t seen anything that suggests Muslims care how they are perceived globally, by non-Muslims. They seem content to do their thing and allow stigma to taint them as a whole.
by Ex Crimson Guard NCO at July 11, 2005 10:24 PM
Welcome Clever Name and you make a good point. It would be more valid though in the early days of the jihad, not now when Al K Duh has struck at all of the US's nominal allies as well as the US itself twice. Think about it: the UK, Australians in Bali, Spain, Turkey. If I lived in Rome I would be looking to move to like, Stockholm right now.
by anna at July 12, 2005 7:38 AM
This Muslims marching for the greater good thing, is a pleasing fiction at the very most. I don't genuinely expect it to happen. I'm actually waiting for the police to discover that the London bombings were in fact carried out by disgruntled gypsy midgets exiled from the travelling community of the UK.
by Ex Crimson Guard NCO at July 12, 2005 8:29 AM
Sooo, they may be from West Yorskhire eh… yesss, judging by the quality of the schools and education there… I’d go with that. Heh heh, have you seen this:
"Oh Mujahid brother, in order to join the great training camps, you don't have to travel to other lands. Alone in your home with a group of your brothers you, too, can begin to execute the training programme to conduct strikes in cities... with blood, embellished with body parts and perfumed with gunpowder."
... this was in the Daily Mail last Friday, reporting on the websites which welcome the Muslim-massive sympathiser posse hailing from our fair western shores. This is allegedly taken from one such site, but I can't be arsed to check for it.
"Join today and receive this attractive carriage clock, absolutely free!"
Exactly, how... absolutely brain dead do you have to be to buy into this horseshit? I'd make a serious statement, but the thought of guys reading this stuff and being inspired keeps tickling me. On ITV News this morning there was the sub-standard representative for the Muslim community, when faced with numbers reporting sympathisers around the 15000 mark in the UK, the guy managed to stutter and stumble and repeat: "I don't buy it." The newsman: "What would you put the numbers at? An estimate?" The guy managed to stutter and stumble and say again: "I don't buy it." Doing a great job these 30 seconders.
Also, today I heard that the ban put on American forces near London, to stop them going into London, has been lifted. But what caught my ear and tugged at it was, the name of the commanding officer in charge of the US forces was James Earl Jones. Eee, great stuff!
by Ex Crimson Guard NCO at July 12, 2005 1:03 PM
Huh? US forces in UK?
by anna at July 12, 2005 6:35 PM
Aye, the US embassy put a ban on the forces based at a couple of airbases, which meant they couldn’t go near central London. Your guys and gals are deployed globally, heh. I wouldn’t be surprised if there ain’t a country on the planet lacking an American serviceman/woman. ;)
Nah, staunch allies 'n' all that... mi casa su casa.
by Ex Crimson Guard NCo at July 12, 2005 7:02 PM
NEW POST PLEASE
by LOCKHE at July 13, 2005 5:30 PM
I've got one but that would make 4 in a row. No go.
by anna at July 13, 2005 8:02 PM
JUST FUCKING POST IT.... FOR GOD'S FUCKING AND THE COSMOS' SAKE...ANNA
by LOCK at July 13, 2005 11:25 PM
Hm, it must be near time to post about moving. But Lockheed, you'll probably have to wait until Friday night. Tonight is my Linux Users Group meeting.
There are great comments here. They make me wonder how scared the anti-terrorism Muslims may be of the terrorist Muslims. Hopefully they are not scared and just need to figure out how to express themselves better, or maybe be more active about being against terrorism. If they are scared, then that's a whole other problem.
by jean at July 14, 2005 9:17 PM
http://www.wingnuttoons.com/bana.mov does anybody remember this show?
...anyways, yeah, I'm worried that soon enough, like the muslims, asian people are going to get targeted bigtime if China buys the shit out of us...
by lockheed at July 14, 2005 11:17 PM
Asians are generally seen as benign. That's why film reels of Japanese atrocities in WWII and tales of their "comfort women" in Korea are so disconcerting.
by anna at July 15, 2005 7:52 AM