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The naked truth
by anna at 06:51 PM on January 14, 2005
This kind of follows MG's last entry, in that it deals in a roundabout way with nakedness and lust.
I've never tried to shelter Ian from stuff that a lot of parents do. You know, violence, graphic sexual imagery and such. He was born in 1990 the same year the internet appeared. So I figured he'd be exposed to it all anyway. Plus I want to be there to explain the difference between reality and fantasy. When he was 4 we took him to see Jurassic Park. He goes, "I'm not afraid of those 'rassic park monsters. They're just pictures."
Now we have the digital cable and of course there's some pretty graphic stuff on there. The smut falls into 3 main categories: 1 Hardcore stuff in the 500's that you have to pay for and it appears on your bill. Not happening here, trust me. 2 Softer core stuff that my son discovered while flipping through the channels early one morn. I haven't really seen that either, though I have caught glimpes. As MG pointed out, family life and this sort of imagery just doesn't mix real well. At least here it wouldn't. 3 Regular cheesy Showtime movies with sexual themes.
We do watch these from time to time. One had a minor Baldwin brother in it. Three guys plot to kidnap a glamorous Hollywood star and force her to have wild sex on the web for money. It works with much dough rolling in as the Baldwin does this busty blonde chick in a variety of zesty positions. The boy, who is 13 and has hormones a-coursing through his veins but also has this offbeat sense of propriety, felt it was overdone. He thought the plot could have been advanced without it being so long and detailed.
I was just thinking my wife would appear at any minute and think we were watching real porn. I'd have to explain that we sat through an hour of exposition before a thread of clothing came off. And that the banging of the glamour queen was essential to the plot. She is ok with nudity and sex in movies so long as it isn't gratuitous, like when they show a chick taking a shower but she doesn't get stabbed or bludgeoned to death between shampoo and conditioner.
The chick in the movie, truth be told, wasn't real hot or well-known. Supposedly she agreed to the plot (which she was in on from the start, unbeknownst to two of the plotters) because she thought it might boost her flagging career. So any well-known but aging (29) actress couldn't be in it for obvious reasons. They'd all say, "Oh she's trying to boost her flagging career by being in a porno within a real movie about an actress who's trying to boost her flagging career by..." And so on, sort of like that picture on that Pink Floyd album where the band is sitting in a room and on the wall hangs a picture of them sitting in the same room but slightly different and in that picture they are sitting in the same room... I guess you had to be there on acid to really understand that picture.
Watching a silly movie like that makes me wonder why they make them. Everyone knows why hardcore porn is such a hit: Guys like to sit around and whack off to DVD porn. Some gals do too, though I'd be suspect of any one that was really into it. Thus the porn industry actually outsells the mainstream movie industry when you count all avenues of sales. But both the softcore version, with no genitalia or money shots, and the regular movies with sex scenes are no good for that purpose. And it's not like anyone watches for the quality of the drama, dialogue or plot lines. It just seems like one more odd piece of detritus strewn about these aimless times.
comments (13)
Right now there's 45 users on the site. But it's the weekend technically. So it will be as silent as said actress was in the back of the van with duct tape over her lips and chloroform in her bloodstream. What was the name of that flick? If I remembered then I could add a link.
by Anna at January 14, 2005 7:02 PM
I'm the opposite... I try to shield my son (Little Evil) from EVERYTHING... you know... people, sunlight, affection. Kids need to be protected, man...
by Eviltom at January 14, 2005 8:54 PM
I was watching 28 Days Later tonight, and the kid was in the room too. That kid is always freakin' around. Anyway, anytime an especially violent scene came on I'd make sure she couldn't see what was happening. Not that she'd have understood it in the least, but still.
by mg at January 14, 2005 9:55 PM
The best sex scene I've ever watched, ever, was just last night on a copy of Team America! Hollywood directors should take note, and have their purty actors assume at least three of the positions shown in TA at any given opportunity.
I remember my dad used to let me and brothers watch stuff like Robocop, and Predator, Tango and Cash, all of the American 80's crap. Running Man... You get the idea. But he would sit fairly close to the television at certain times to cover the screen with a large cushion. We'd get the audio: "RATATATATATATA, AAAAARAAAaaaraaAAAArgggGGGhGHHH MY GOD, HOLD IN MY GUTS, AAARGH!!" But we wouldn't see any of it until many years later. Me and one of my brothers did sneak a look at Evil Dead, and after a couple of weeks recovering we moved onto, A Nightmare on Elm Street. We're the two who are just slightly fucked up.
You should protect kids... And I wouldn't let one online until he could, at the very least, explain to me in an intelligently constructed lie that he needed it for study.
by Ex Crimson Guard NCO at January 15, 2005 7:26 AM
It's kind of funny how the protection of kids' tender sensibilities are always trotted out in support of censorship and curtailing freedom. I mean, obviously they shouldn't be exposed to sunlight, but softcore porn or Nightmare on Elm Street? Come on. 8th graders exchange blowjobs with all the aforethought once given to a goodnight smooch. The cat is out of the bag and it is licking your ass.
by Anna at January 15, 2005 9:08 AM
On the other hand, there's my friend Roger. His parents were real permissive, allowing him to bang girls, watch whatever he wanted and smoke weed in his room. He grew up to be a monster. When we'd meet girls and try to pick them up, he'd go, "So, do you still have tht picture of my dick and balls on your dresser?" A real icebreaker, that.
by Anna at January 15, 2005 9:50 AM
I remember asking my cousin what she wanted to do back when she was fourteen, she said she wanted to be come a teacher. She'd never been online, was easily frightened by anytype of gore movie, and hadno interest in violent action hero films. I asked after her friend Jodie (a child of t'internet) and my cousin replied, "Jodie wants to have sex."
When I was fourteen I was smoking what cigarettes I could afford, but was still playing Manhunt with my friends. At fifteen I was discovering the nether regions of the female species, but still spending a copious quantity of time playing video games. I was sixteen before I discovered t'internet, and it was more corruption than I was looking for. lol. Teenage curiosity lead to finding bestiality, far out fetish porn, and just about any visual or written taboo available.
T'internet would be great for kids and teenagers if it was free of porn, and that darker stuff - that claims to be porn - which no matter how old you are is hard to fathom. Watching gory B movies, and copies of Members Only porn videos as a teenager, doesn't come close to what the net offers... I reckon if I had kids I'd be doing what my dad with the cushion trick. But I know that parents today lacking computer skills and flaunting their ignorance to all things WWW... Their kids are seeing things that the parents couldn't begin to imagine.
And half of the parents today are Net kids, having discovered, experienced, and had sex at an early age. Too large a minority are becoming mothers and fathers, crap education, no censors = Messed up society. Not that people are stupid and need to be protected by governments and peers... Just that kids are, and do need that protection. IMHO. :)
by Ex Crimson Guard NCO at January 15, 2005 1:55 PM
Well, on the rare occasions I have ventured into the netherworlds of the online world, I've always found it to be a must frustrating quagmire-like maze. One thing leads to another but there's no payoff, like those soft-core flicks sans money shots. But maybe that is because I am one of those WWW-ignorant old farts who can't negotatiate my way around the web. I dunno.
by Anna at January 16, 2005 9:14 AM
I disagree. I'm on the 'self-degratory' end of masturbation. HARD PORN is so blatant that it's not that fun to masturbate too. BUT, when you see a picture of someone that is NOT that attractive(NOT) even naked, and masturbate(PRETENDING YOU ARE in AWE and simply seeing the person's Face)... you intentionally make yourself feel so LOW... that you have the best orgasm.
by LOCKHEED at January 16, 2005 4:32 PM
What's Perversion? Hence VOYEURIST's get more turned on from Bits and Pieces, and even fully clothed bodies of women...
by LOCKHEED at January 16, 2005 4:35 PM
Maybe it's a question of authenticity. From what I've seen of the softer stuff, it isn't really clear if anything aside from a naked lap-dance is really going on.
by Anna at January 16, 2005 6:04 PM
Lock...
... Yikes! Heh.
Erm, for a teenager to see a fully clothed woman and imagine her naked, I'd say, he's healthy. For a teenager to go online and see a woman being given a royal seeing to by a Great Dane... I'm thinking that kid's gonna be ever so slightly frooked up by it.
Be cool if clothed women became censor worthy though, Hollywood mainstream movies would have leading ladies blurred from ankle to neck. Then kids’d be fantasising about feet and heads... And they'd blur those out to. lol.
Seriously though, t'internet gives access to things like Porn sites, Death sites, Rape sites, Gay sites, Incest sites, Bestiality sites, Kiddie-Porn sites... Influences and imagery that's best left off camera and off what could be the greatest medium ever. It's swamped by shit, and not just those - influential to kids’ minds - sites I've listed, but also with a horde of crap that's just floating around like a heaving pile of human poo poo. My Homepages, my Pokemon fansite - still under construction, abandoned after two pages worth of HTML in 1999... My Vampire Chronicles, a comprehensive list of all things Dracula, “last update: 1996 -- Sorry I haven’t been around for a while but my dog Bengy died recently and other stuff is happening.” The page is all black with a picture of Dracula and the only text is the title and the last update apology…
... So much poo.
by Ex Crimson Guard NCO at January 17, 2005 1:22 PM
I wonder about Muslims. I read this article about Iranian women who where trying to circumvent the rules by designing sexy burquas, if there is such a thing. My guess is the ayotollahs would be giving them a tongue-lashing while fantasizing about another sort of tongue-lashing.
by Anna at January 17, 2005 5:57 PM